Christian Prince – What is Allah?

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  1. θ says:

    Arabic word which refers to the body and parts of it of different being and organisms is indecisive, inconclusive, and incomparable.
    In Qur’an Q.35, v.1, Arabic word for angels’ wings is “Janah”, exactly the same with the birds’ wings at Q.6, v.38, but the same word refers to a child’s humility toward the parents at Q.17, v.24 and Moses’ arms at Q.20, v.22, so it’s different in reality and appearance.

    In Qur’an Q.38, v.33, Arabic word for four horse’s legs is “Suwq” (or Saq), exactly the same word for two human’s legs “Saq” at Q.27, v.44, but different in reality and appearance, whereas at Q.18, v.18 Arabic word for four dog’s legs is dhira’ay.

    A word can have many definitions. For example, the word “over” in English has multiple meanings such as beyond, upon something, finishing, above, on top of, higher (up) than, atop, covering. An author or a speaker is free to choose whatever words he uses. One may decide to use his wording with “abstraction” or “figuration” or “allegory” or “personification”.

  2. Faiz says:

    It is a central tenet of Islam that the descriptions about Allah (swt) in the Quran are true and that Muslims must believe them. However, we also believe that these descriptions are not anything like in humans because Allah is unlike His creation. But you won’t hear that from Christian princess, the pseudoscholar and liar!

    Madman, when will you get it through your head that you are being lied to? Repent before it is too late.

    The irony of ironies is that christian princessant doesn’t seem to realize that his god has legs and is an old man with white hair. See Exodus and Daniel.

    The description in Daniel was most probably borrowed from pagan mythology! Ouch!

  3. Faiz says:

    Here is the description of madman’s god in Exodus:

    “And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness” (Exodus 24:10).

    Here the description in Daniel:

    “I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire” (Daniel 7:9).

    As I wrote in my article on the book of Daniel:

    “In his “vision”, Daniel saw the “Ancient of Days” and provided a vivid description of this being (who was obviously “God”), including clothing that “was white as snow”, and hair that “was white as wool”. But as historians have recognized, this description of a white-haired God seems to be influenced by pagan mythology. According to Hammer:

    “[t]he imagery probably comes from Canaanite mythology, in which El was regarded as an aged deity with grey hair.”[168]

    Moreover, the imagery of a “son of man” approaching the “Ancient of Days” shares similarities with Canaanite myth. According to Hammer:

    “[i]n Ugaritic texts Baal, the younger god, is described as the one who slew the dragon Itu and so gained victory over the sea, thus establishing his kingship. (In verses 13-14 the second figure is seen as the recipient of authority at the hand of the ‘ancient in years’ and this may reflect the ancient mythology preserved in the enthronement festival of New Year rites.”[169]”

    So we may ask to christian princess and madman: what is Yahweh?

  4. θ says:

    Now, about the semantic question where God is.
    The answer for that depends on its question.
    (i) Where’s Allah indwelling? He is in the heart, that Allah stays between a man and his heart (Q.8, v.24).
    (ii) Where’s Allah mounting? He is beyond the 7th Heaven and beyond the Throne above (Q.13, v.2).
    (iii) Where’s Allah according to the nearness? He is everywhere more nearer than one’s own jugular vein (Q.50, v.16, Q.57, v.4).

  5. θ says:

    At the absolute sense, actually we can’t use the word “Where” (as it’s the creation’s attribute) for questioning aspect of God. Allah’s nature is different from the creation’s nature (Jawhar). There will be never to happen such a unification between two different natures – Wahdat al Wujud – so in the absolutism the word “Where” is misplaced.

  6. Anonymous says:

    When one lessens Jehovah lower than God, one doesn’t have God anymore.

    The infinite Nature of God is unknown nor examined by everyone, not even by angels and Spirit, because the finite ones can’t comprehend the infinite one.
    But nevertheless, as the scripture makes us know it, Jehovah’s images, his names, his attributes, his words, even his Self are made known very well.

    Bear in mind this difference:
    God’s image can be seen, namely Adam, but not his shape.
    God’s words can be known, namely Scriptures, but not his voice.
    God has the name “Rock”, but God is not the rock nor stone.
    God accepts the prayer toward the stones (wall, temple, pillars), but God forbids the idols.
    God accepts the statues of cherubim, but God forbids the graven images and crafted idols.

    No one can know nor be able to search Jehovah’s infinite understanding.
    Isa 40:28
    Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

    Prayer toward the wall is acceptable.
    Isa 38
    2 Then Hezekiah turned his face toward the wall, and prayed unto the LORD,3 And said, Remember now, O LORD, I beseech thee, how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Certain verses in the Bible can’t be taken literally.
    For example “throwing a shoe” behavior in the Arab tradition is literal act of showing anger, but it doesn’t mean that Jehovah needs to wear two shoes for two feet.
    Ps 60:8
    Moab is my washpot; over Edom will I cast out my shoe: Philistia, triumph thou because of me.

  8. θ says:

    Language has limitation, it can’t explain a difference of body parts between humans and other creations, let alone a difference with God.

    In Qur’an Q.35, v.1, Arabic word for angels’ wings is “Janah”, exactly the same with the birds’ wings at Q.6, v.38, but the same word refers to a child’s humility toward the parents at Q.17, v.24 and Moses’ arms at Q.20, v.22, so it’s the same for the calling, but totally different in reality and appearance.

  9. Anonymous says:

    Are these things figurative for God or not?
    Wearing a shoe?
    Ps 108:9
    Moab is my washpot; over Edom will I cast out my shoe; over Philistia will I triumph.

    Needing a washpot to cleanse his body?
    Ps 60:8
    Moab is my washpot; over Edom will I cast out my shoe: Philistia, triumph thou because of me.

    Using a girdle for loins and reins?
    Isa 11:5
    And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.

    Producing a smoke from inside?
    2Sam 22:9
    There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.

    Being cheered by drinking the wine?
    Jud 9:13
    And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees?

    Having lack of knowing beforehand?
    Exo 33:5
    For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee.
    Job 31:6
    Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.

    Making people err?
    Isa 63:17
    O LORD, why hast thou made us to err from thy ways, and hardened our heart from thy fear?

  10. Anonymous says:

    How could you literally in the sense of incestuous illicitness call your Father “my husband”?
    Hos 2:16
    And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi (my husband); and shalt call me no more Baali.
    Isa 43:6
    I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;

  11. θ says:

    A linguistic reason why we can’t accept the literal Bible: Being a wife as well as children at same time?
    Is not the practice of incestuous paedophilia supposed to be a sin for the Jews and Christians?
    Jer 31:32
    Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
    Dt 14:1
    Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the dead.

  12. θ says:

    Qur’an Q.5, v.18 uses a very exact sarcasm to criticise the pride and arrogance of both Jews and the Trinitarians who groomed a “filthy” idea of “personal God”, being a romantic partner and a child of God at the same time?
    So, our Qur’an just smartly throws again their perversion back to the same egos of Jews and Trinitarians: Child grooming is supposed as a sin, are ye both the victims of it?

  13. السلفية says:

    Also it is noticeable how Jer 31:32 indicates a practise of polygamy by God: ..I was an husband unto “them” (plural), instead of her alone (singular).
    So, how could the Christians whine a lot against polygamy?
    Jer 31:32
    Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

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