Islamic Angels say prayers for the forgiveness of believers. This proves that Islam is a false Religion.

40 v 7. Those who carry the Throne, and those around it, glorify their Lord with praise, and believe in Him, and ask for forgiveness for those who believe: “Our Lord, You have encompassed everything in mercy and knowledge; so forgive those who repent and follow Your path, and protect them from the agony of the Blaze.

42 v 5. The heavens above them almost burst apart, while the angels glorify the praises of their Lord, and ask forgiveness for those on earth. God is indeed the Forgiver, the Merciful.

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8 Responses to Islamic Angels say prayers for the forgiveness of believers. This proves that Islam is a false Religion.

  1. Faiz says:

    Rotfl, oh my goodness…the comedy never ends at madman’s blog of ineptitude.

    What does your non-sequitur prove other than that you’re a desperate simpleton?

  2. θ says:

    It is just a big picture of a smaller event when Jesus comes out from Mary’s body, that is when the glory of God, a peace on the earth and a goodwill toward all people were getting prayed for by some flying angels on the night sky.
    Lk 2
    13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

    God assigns the angels to lead, manage, minister the humans for a salvation, including forgiveness and atonement:
    Heb 1:14
    Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
    Ps 91
    11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

  3. Faiz says:

    Lol, so once again, madman disproves his own religion by his own convoluted logic.

  4. madmanna says:

    The angels do not mediate therefore these texts prove that Islam is a false religion.

    Also they don’t speak to God in the imperative voice. The Islamic text is self-contradictory in this sense.

  5. Faiz says:

    Lol, so you’re some sort of expert on angels I suppose? Your non-sequitur doesn’t prove anything madman.

    Did you call an institution yet to commit yourself? ; )

  6. Anonymous says:

    “madmanna says: Islamic Angels say prayers for the forgiveness of believers. This proves that Islam is a false Religion.”

    Likewise, the Spirit prays to God for the forgiveness of sinners on the earth, just as mere humans pray to God for forgiveness of the fellow sinners. It makes Spirit as mortal as humans.
    Rom 8:26
    Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
    Jam 5:15
    And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

  7. Faiz says:

    On bloggingtheology, Madman gets embarrassed by a Muslim (username Intellect) on the issue of forgiveness in Christianity and the alleged redemptive death of Jesus:

    https://bloggingtheology.net/2017/07/15/gods-forgiveness-in-islam-and-christianity-mansur-ahmad-vs-christian-ladies/#comment-52579

    madmanna
    July 18, 2017 • 3:25 pm

    ” In Islam God freely forgives whomsoever He wills without demanding a payment.”

    He is only forgiving Muslims and the payment is to be a Muslim and perform all the works associated with that.

    Our Saviour Jesus performed his works in a similar way.

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    thinkverywell
    July 20, 2017 • 3:48 am

    madmanna

    July 18, 2017 • 3:25 pm

    ” In Islam God freely forgives whomsoever He wills without demanding a payment.”

    He is only forgiving Muslims and the payment is to be a Muslim and perform all the works associated with that.

    Our Saviour Jesus performed his works in a similar way

    I say;
    You are wrong. In Islam God forgives a non Muslim who

    -has not heard about Islam
    -Some scholars will add distorted version of Islam
    – babies and young who have not reached puberty no matter their religion or parents religion.
    That is the beauty of Islam.

    Jesus will put all thje above in fire because the condition is to believe he died for your sins. Wicked.

    Allay says if He wills He can forgive ANYONE except those who add any image in worship besides HIm.

    Thanks.

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    Faiz
    July 20, 2017 • 4:11 am

    Thinkverywell said:

    “babies and young who have not reached puberty no matter their religion or parents religion.
    That is the beauty of Islam.

    Jesus will put all thje above in fire because the condition is to believe he died for your sins. Wicked.”

    These are good points and it’s good you brought up the issue of babies who die in infancy. According to Islamic teachings, they will not be held responsible because they never reached the age of choosing. But what about madman’s religion? What does it say? If anyone has read madman’s blog, he states that he is a follower of the “Westminster Confession of Faith”:

    “I am a 5 point Calvinist and Amillenialist observing the ideological clash between Islam and Christianity. I also take the stance of the Dean Burgon Society on the primacy of the KJV in the English language. My name is Paul. I adhere to the Westminster Confession of Faith” (https://badmanna.wordpress.com/about/).

    Well, that means that madman believes the following tenet. This is from chapter 10 of the Westminster Confession of Faith (On Effectual Calling):

    “Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ, through the Spirit,[12] who works when, and where, and how He pleases:[13] so also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word.[14]

    IV. Others, not elected, although they may be called by the ministry of the Word,[15] and may have some common operations of the Spirit,[16] yet they never truly come unto Christ, and therefore cannot be saved…” (http://www.reformed.org/documents/wcf_with_proofs/).

    So according to this “confession”, those infants who are “not elected” (whatever that means) and die in infancy “cannot be saved”! This is madman’s religion. Not only does his religion believe that God commanded the murder of infants. It also says that those infants (or at least those are “not elected”) will not be saved.

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    mr.heathcliff
    July 20, 2017 • 8:15 am


    Nowhere does the bible teach that the death penalty for the actual physical act of adultery was negated but secular governments don’t apply it. All men should be under this law.”

    i was talking about lustful thoughts which are adultery in the mind of jesus. if you lusted, according to jesus you already did the act. jesus recommended you pluck out your eye , he didn’t say he would DIE for your lustful thoughts, he said pluck out the eye.

    if PHYSICAL act of KILLING the adulterer is not abrogated, then jesus DID not ATONE for ALL the physical ACTS of adulteries past, present and future.

    in other words you can’t repent and have him as an atonement for that specific sin because you yourself need to pay with your life ,according to you .


    It’s absurd to claim that Christians seek to be saved in order to live a life of sin or that they enjoy impunity from the punishment of sins.”

    okay, did jesus die for past, present and future christian LUSTFUL thoughts? since you have accepted jesus died for your sinful thoughts which REQUIRE the death penalty in the torah, then it implies you are hiding under jesus’ SKIRT because you ALREADY got away with the ADULTERIES in your heart and mind.

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    mr.heathcliff
    July 19, 2017 • 11:37 am

    “It had to be placed and burnt on the altar, which was sprinkled with blood, by the priest who was also sprinkled with blood. Do you understand this?”

    that was an act done to yhwh through human deeds, when did yhwh ever say he was going to use temple sacrifices to make himself into an offering to himself?

    sacrifices go to yhwh, yhwh does not go to yhwh.


    That’s true in the case of temporal punishments. The sacrifice of Christ does not annul any temporal punishments imposed upon sin by any form of human government. It does away with the eternal punishment of sin.”

    so you are punished if you break laws imposed by human government but if you break the laws god imposed upon human beings, then you can break them because god VIOLENTLY punished himself?

    so you are free from DIVINE consequences because god VIOLENTLY poured wrath on himself?

    this is corruption. did god lose trust in his laws? did the VIOLENT pinning of himself become so close to his heart that he forgot about divine consequences ?

    “The Jewish people feel that their temple sacrifices are being mocked by the fstians. why would their god create complex system only to have it undone by the shedding of human flesh? Pagans shed jesus, does this mean yhwhs love of shedding animal could be undone?”

    “It wasn’t undone, it was fulfilled.”

    you either BREAK by undoing or you obey. how come in your religion human EFFORT with regards to the sacrifice of the animal is never looked at?

    pagans USED to shed baby flesh, the jews got tempted and did it too, but yhwh created a complex system in jewish temple to undo the shedding of human flesh. so why would yhwh undo complex system through VIOLENT MURDER of your god, when yhwh NEVER said that ANIMALS sacrifices CAN undo animal sacrifices ANYWHERE in his torah or any of his laws. .

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    mr.heathcliff
    July 19, 2017 • 1:14 pm

    “That’s true in the case of temporal punishments.”

    ” The sacrifice of Christ does not annul any temporal punishments imposed upon sin”

    ” by any form of human government. It does away with the eternal punishment of sin.”

    brother faiz, you reading this? human punishments one should be worried about, but gods punishment one has FREEDOM from. no worries. divine consequences have been “switched of” because flesh got beaten the shit out of. but i thought god views ONE, just ONE sin as punishable IN THE depths of hell fire in their beliefs. when did SINS in ALL years “switch of ” this problem if you believe a god BEAT the shit out of himself?

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    madmanna
    July 20, 2017 • 7:55 am

    Christians also live under the Father’s chastisement, which can include any form of evil or sickness, and ecclesiastical discipline.

    Nowhere does the bible teach that the death penalty for the actual physical act of adultery was negated but secular governments don’t apply it. All men should be under this law.

    Punishments for violent crimes should be as the law of Moses. Muslims exclude themselves if the victim was a non-Muslim.

    It’s absurd to claim that Christians seek to be saved in order to live a life of sin or that they enjoy impunity from the punishment of sins.

    More silliness from people who cherry pick from the bible.

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    madmanna
    July 20, 2017 • 7:36 am

    ““Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ, through the Spirit,[12] who works when, and where, and how He pleases:[13] so also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word.[14]”

    It could be that all human beings who died in infancy are elected ( chosen ) to eternal life. That’s up to God, not us.

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    Faiz
    July 20, 2017 • 8:44 am

    More lies from the madman! You should be ashamed of yourself!

    If all could be saved then your idiotic creed should just say it. Instead, it specifically says that those who are not elected wI’ll not be saved.

    I think it’s clear that madman lies even against his own religion when it’s embarrassing tenets get exposed. Heretic! Hypocrite!

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    Intellect
    July 20, 2017 • 11:44 am

    madmanna

    July 20, 2017 • 7:36 am

    ““Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ, through the Spirit,[12] who works when, and where, and how He pleases:[13] so also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word.[14]”

    It could be that all human beings who died in infancy are elected ( chosen ) to eternal life. That’s up to God, not us

    I say;
    Bingo. The first time I heard from a Christian that, people will be saved without the blood of Jesus Christ or can be saved without believing that Christ died for their sins or is their saviour.

    The above statements indicates the Christian God can call anyone to the elect IF HE(CHRISTIAN GOD) PLEASES.

    That is exactly Islamic here. Allah forgives anyone He pleases.

    Then why are Christians lying from their teeth that “only those who believed Jesus is their saviour” can be saved but it is a lie in the above statement by Christians.

    So, to those who were saved by the above statement, the blood of Jesus is useless. They never believed his blood will save them, and yet he saved them WHEN AND HOW HE HE PLEASES just like the Islamic God.

    Some Christians call it arbitrary. The above Christian creed shows exactly and arbitrariness in the Christian God forgiveness and it means as he wishes, even the person did not believed he died for their sins.

    So, there is a way of forgiveness without believing in the in Christ. Why tell us lies that it is the only blood of Jesus that can save?

    Thanks.

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    Intellect
    July 20, 2017 • 12:03 pm

    madmanna

    It could be that all human beings who died in infancy are elected ( chosen ) to eternal life. That’s up to God, not us.

    I say;
    THAT’S UP TO GOD, NOT US to eternal life.-madmanna.

    Exactly, madmanna, it is up to God to save and not us, so why tell us lies that “it is only through the blood of Jesus” that one is saved?

    Muslims are saying here everyday that it is up to God to forgive or save but you and other Christians says no, God can only save unless you believe he died for your sins.

    When you are totally cornered from your bad forgiveness, you turn to Islamic forgiveness where God can forgive anyone He pleases, without the person believing the death of Christ will save him.

    God can elect anyone He pleases without the blood of Jesus Christ. Thank you madmanna for involuntarily accepting Islam today because that is what Islam teaches. It is up to God and His Mercy to save and not that one has to believe in the death of Christ for the atonement of his sins.

    Thanks.

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    Faiz
    July 20, 2017 • 11:03 pm

    LOL, good job brother Intellect for exposing madman’s contradictory theology. He has been thoroughly embarrassed!

  8. Faiz says:

    Moderating my comments will not save you madman! You will get exposed either way, whether it is on your pathetic blog or some other blog.

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