Mohammed’s fake and phoney laws which contradict each other and have no punishment. Here Mohammed forbids the killing of women and children but sends his jihadi thugs to attack civilian settlements at night. After being told that women and children were killed during a night raid he dismisses it as being of no consequence

181 hadith found in ‘The Book of Jihad and Expedition (Kitab Al-Jihad wal-Siyar)‘ of Sahih Muslim.
 4319  It is narrated on the authority of ‘Abdullah that a woman was found killed in one of the battles fought by the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him). He disapproved of the killing of women and children.
 4320  It is narrated by Ibn ‘Umar that a woman was found killed in one of these battles; so the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) forbade the killing of women and children.
 4321  It is reported on the authority of Sa’b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.
 4322  It is narrated by Sa’b b. Jaththama that he said (to the Holy Prophet): Messenger of Allah, we kill the children of the polytheists during the night raids. He said: They are from them.
 4323  Sa’b b. Jaththama has narrated that the Prophet (may peace be upon him) asked: What about the children of polytheists killed by the cavalry during the night raid? He said: They are from them
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3 Responses to Mohammed’s fake and phoney laws which contradict each other and have no punishment. Here Mohammed forbids the killing of women and children but sends his jihadi thugs to attack civilian settlements at night. After being told that women and children were killed during a night raid he dismisses it as being of no consequence

  1. θ says:

    One sahih Hadith is checked by other sahih Hadith.
    A case of the mistaken killing of early night raid is a reason for a famous prohibition: “Thereafter the Messenger of Allah prohibited to kill women and children.”

    Abi Dawud Book 14, Hadith 2666
    Al Sa’b bin Jaththamah said that he asked the Apostle of Allaah about the polytheists whose settlement were attacked at night when some of their offspring and women were smitten. The Prophet: They are of them. ‘Amr bin Dinar used to say: they are regarded in the same way as their parents. Al-Zuhri said: Thereafter the Messenger of Allah prohibited to kill women and children.

    A statement “They are of them” could mean that Prophet Muhammad just reveals otherwise that actually it is those heathen men themselves who have mistakenly killed their own children and women in process.
    Especially at time of getting desperate or under sudden attack, the heathen men used to force their wives and children to be tied around themselves, as a “human shield”, as well as to rouse up their highest fierceness in battle, also the presence of their families is meant to prevent a desertion of war.

    //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Badr
    Several things are worth noting: although many Arab armies brought their women and children along on campaigns both to motivate and care for the men, the Meccan army did not. [32]
    32. Lings, p. 154.
    //books.google.com/books?id=d8EkQwAACAAJ&dq
    Lings, Martin (1983). Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources.

    Prophet Muhammad doesn’t do the night raid.
    Bukhari, Vol 5, Book 59, Hadith Number 10.
    Narated By Anas : Allah’s Apostle reached Khaibar at night and it was his habit that, whenever he reached the enemy at night, he will not attack them till it was morning.

    Abraham, Gideon, David, Joram, and the ancient Israelites do the night raids.
    Night raids in the Bible:
    Gen 14:15
    And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night, and smote them,

    Jud 7
    9 And it came to pass the same night, that the LORD said unto him, Arise, get thee down unto the host; for I have delivered it into thine hand.20 And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.

    1Sam 30:17
    And David smote them from the twilight even unto the evening of the next day: and there escaped not a man of them, save four hundred young men, which rode upon camels, and fled.

    2Ki 8:21
    So Joram went over to Zair, and all the chariots with him: and he rose by night, and smote the Edomites,

    1Sam 31:12
    All the valiant men arose, and went all night, and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons,

  2. madmanna says:

    “A statement “They are of them” could mean that Prophet Muhammad just reveals otherwise that actually it is those heathen men themselves who have mistakenly killed their own children and women in process.”

    but the text says “WE ( not the polytheists ) kill the children of the polytheists during the night raids. He said: They are from them.”

    There are three reports of killing where Mohammed says they are of them. So two of them were either after the law to forbid or two before. They show indifference either before or after the forbidding. The forbidding has no penalty. A law without teeth is a joke or taqiya from above. It just means that kuffar life is not worth a punishment and Allah protects Muslims from the consequences of their wickedness.

    Why didn’t Allah forbid night raids? The bible does, thou shalt not kill. Endangering life or manslaughter is also forbidden in the bible.

  3. θ says:

    “madmanna says: Why didn’t Allah forbid night raids?”

    That’s just a common sense: Evil doesn’t rest at night. The state needs to prevent crime and pursue criminals at night, lest they go missing unpunished. A lot of great sins occur mostly at night: rape, adultery, prostitution, theft, human trafficking, smuggling, intrusion, boozing, et cetera.

    “but the text says “WE ( not the polytheists ) kill the children of the polytheists during the night raids.”

    The use of a word “we” in Hadith is quite obscure and indecisive, because it could have mistakenly included the Prophet himself (we in the meaning of “I and you”) but in fact the Prophet didn’t participate in the night raid.
    Hence, the word “we” in the context can mean all men involved in that particular events, i.e. both Moslems and the heathens who fought at that time. Thus, a statement of Prophet Muhammad “they are from them” should be understood that it is those heathen men themselves who have mistakenly killed their own children and women in process.

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