Jesus invalidates Islam from being the truth

Luke 24 v 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.

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  1. θ says:

    Nowhere does the Bible write “and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day”. Hence, early Christians were just deceived and have followed one false Christ (Judas) to other false Christs (some faceshifters).
    Lk 21:8
    And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
    Mk 16:12
    After that he appeared in Another Form unto two of them as they walked, and went into the country.

  2. θ says:

    Is it true that Islam corrects the records of the NT witnesses after 600 years? Not at all.
    Qur’an affirms that there’s a deceiver who has the ability to resemble (face-shifting) the Christ as mentioned by Mark 16:12.
    If Jesus is a honest person, he will never deceive his own disciples, but that a faceshifter has fooled and deceived two disciples all day long.
    Mk 16:12
    After that he appeared in Another Form unto two of them as they walked, and went into the country.

    Qur’an also affirms that there’s person (False Christ) who has a guts to lie on Christ, even on the written passage of Scripture.
    Lk 24:46
    And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

  3. θ says:

    Now several questions on Christians:
    (i) What if the event of Mk 16:12 is upside down?
    What if the person on the event of Mk 16:12 is not Jesus who fooled the disciples, but rather a strange person who is trying to test his magical ability of face-shifting to them?

    Since Jesus is a honest person and doesn’t have a habit to fool around and lie, it is impossible for Jesus to pretend to be a different man on purpose to deceive his disciples.

    (ii) By supposing it is the same Jesus in Mk 16:12, why does God let him use a deceitful face-shifting capability to fool his disciples?

    (iii) By supposing it is the same Jesus in Mk 16:12, why does God not help him reappear again to the Jews who have accused him of being a deceiver after the third day, just like Jonas?
    Rather, by not reappearing again to the Jews who waited his resurrection he just confirms their accusation on him that he is a deceiver.
    Mt 27:63
    Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

  4. θ says:

    (iv) A hint of deceit: That impostor had almost got caught by a woman’s hug:
    Jn 20:17
    Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    Further proof of amateurish deceit: that impostor fails to convince enough so many doubters who received his breathing “Holy Ghost”:
    Mt 28:17
    And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

    (v) This is a sign of how the magical delusion of the false Christ works on them: Why do early Christians just easily accept a blatant lie to them that there’s a written verse “And thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day”?
    Lk 24:46
    And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

    (vi) Another evidence of delusion upon early Christians: Why has apparition of the alleged “risen Christ” not ever seen for 40 days long by the Jews and the Romans?

    (vii) Rational questions:
    Prior to his incarnation, Jesus has oftentimes appeared as the angel (christophanies) in front the Jews and Gentiles along 1,000 years (from the time of Abraham to Daniel’s) and he caused a big news, but now after 2,000 years since the last event of Paul’s journey in Damascus, Jesus never appears publicly again.

  5. θ says:

    Concerning the returning to God in John’s Gospel, an apparition of the “risen Christ” tells a complete negation contrary to what Jesus had promised earlier, hence the “risen Christ” confuses the disciples and makes a bad impression that Jesus had lied thrice (at John 14, John 16, and John 16) to in the same Gospel.
    Jn 14
    2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
    Jn 16
    5 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?16 . A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.17 Then said some of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father?
    Jn 17
    11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

    versus.
    Jn 20:17
    Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

    Most Christians just close eyes and ears when getting confronted by a great discrepancy between a promise of returning to God (by his words “now I come to thee”, “now I go my way to him that sent me”, “I go to the Father”) and the negation (I am not yet ascended to my Father). In the simple scrutiny it is called a barefaced lie with a straight face.

  6. BAM! A SUNNI MUSLIM SCHOLAR ADMITS THAT MUTAH MARRIAGE IS ACTUALLY PROSTITUTION AND ADULTERY! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9Rja9iWlW8

    What this scholar fails to see is that this means that Muhammad prostituted women and committed adultery since Muhammad was the one who initially permitted mutah marriages!

    Time to remove Muhammad from your life since he does not meet the minimal standards of human decency. Too bad you cannot pray for Muhammad to repent of his filthy moth and vile evil heart since he is dead and buried and under the wrath of the Lord Jesus, your Master and Judge.

  7. θ says:

    Moses initiates Mu’tah, and Jesus thru Paul approves it, but Prophet Muhammad makes it first a temporary betrothal and abrogates it.
    Mu’tah in the Torah: One night stand with a Jewish woman is legalised as Mu’tah if her father doesn’t agree with the price of her body.
    Exo 22
    16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
    Deut 22:28
    If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

    Mu’tah in the NT: Marriage with unbelieving spouse makes the body of that unbeliever a “holy unbeliever”, but somewhat such a holy unbeliever is also encouraged to divorce a faithful spouse anytime, sooner is better.
    1Cor 7
    14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

  8. madmanna says:

    No betrothal if the father does not agree to it. No marriage takes place.

    The father must be compensated for the defilement of his daughter.

    There must be a price to pay for abandoning your spouse.

    Spouse and children can’t be left in limbo.

  9. θ says:

    “madmanna says: No betrothal if the father does not agree to it. No marriage takes place. ”

    That’s what we perceive as a business of prostitution.
    One unmarried daughter can deposit a regular daily payment of her “one night stand” services with different men, to her own pimping father, thru her seductive profession from one night to other nights.
    The Torah doesn’t count a pre-marital free sex with the unmarried girls as sin of adultery because there’s no violation of marriage vow.
    The Torah doesn’t penalise her father for having pimped her every night because any Jewish girl is a property of her father. A father is permitted to pimp his daughters as long as the payment keeps flowing and coming.

    “The father must be compensated for the defilement of his daughter.”

    Indeed, so the cash flow from the payments of a seduction business of those unmarried daughter(s) can continuously go on and on and on, regularly every night, into her father’s pockets.

  10. madmanna says:

    The father does not refuse marriage because he wants to pimp his daughter. He has to live with the shame. He is not forced by this action to give his daughter in marriage should he not choose.

    The muslim male can pimp his sex slaves if he is married to them. He just divorces them by recitation first if necessary.

  11. θ says:

    “madmanna says: The father does not refuse marriage because he wants to pimp his daughter. He has to live with the shame. He is not forced by this action to give his daughter in marriage should he not choose.”

    It is a more greater shame for the decent people to know that unfortunately the Torah doesn’t strongly forbid a father from pimping his daughter to get a huge sum of money so long as she isn’t married yet.

    “The muslim male can pimp his sex slaves if he is married to them.”

    Shari’ah punishment for oppressors is the immediate public arrest and imprisonment.
    Musnad Ahmad Hadith 31
    Abu Bakr said, O people, you read this verse: O you who believe, your duty is to yourselves, those who have gone astray will not harm you when you have been guided (5:105), and I heard the Messenger of Allah says: Verily, if the people see an oppressor and they do not seize his hand, then Allah will soon send punishment upon all of them.
    Tirmidhi, Vol. 5, Book 44, Hadith 3057
    Narrated Abu Bakr As-Siddiq: O you people! You recite this Ayah: Take care of yourselves! If you follow the guidance no harm shall come to you from those who are astray (5:105). I indeed heard the Messenger of Allah saying: ‘When the people see the wrongdoer, and they do not stop him (from doing wrong), then it is soon that Allah shall envelope you in a punishment from Him.

    “He just divorces them by recitation first if necessary.”

    Likewise, in Islam a husband’s bankruptcy comes as fast as his verbal divorcement.
    A divorcement can be as painful and difficult as filling bankruptcy for a man if his wife has tied him with a verbal promise of paying a huge amount of the delayed dowry.

  12. madmanna says:

    “It is a more greater shame for the decent people to know that unfortunately the Torah doesn’t strongly forbid a father from pimping his daughter to get a huge sum of money so long as she isn’t married yet.”

    The payment of the dowry is a punishment for not taking the woman honorably. The father has the last say because he should not be railroaded in to a marriage to which he does not agree.

    A woman should cost a man something or is she not worth anything?

    Jacob toiled seven years each for Rachel and Leah.

    Muslims don’t give their sex slaves away for nothing. They take them to the market.

  13. θ says:

    Whether the father agrees with his daughter’s marriage or objects, he would receive the same payment from men for having consummated his daughters. That’s like taking the money from activity of renting a property.

  14. madmanna says:

    The law cannot be misused to force the parents to make them give their child to a certain person in marriage.

    The taking of the honour must be punished under the law.

    The parents are against the violation so they are not pimping.

  15. madmanna says:

    The payment of the dowry is a deterrent to the ploy of forcing the parents to give their daughter in marriage by having pre-marital sex to force a fait accompli.

  16. θ says:

    “madmanna says: The law cannot be misused to force the parents to make them give their child to a certain person in marriage.”

    But the Torah doesn’t criminalise any Jewish father who pimps his daughters for money, it doesn’t criminalise him for letting her seek money from that immoral activity, even it doesn’t criminalise the daughters who consented to do that dirty business.

    Just like renting a property, the pimping is based on the owner’s consent and permission, that’s a father of daughter.
    The Torah just deals with a case of the absence of father’s consent: If a man defiled the daughter without her father’s consent, yes the father gets his honor violated so badly, yet the defilers just get off a hook so easily by just paying him a sum of money, hence the father is legally forced to make the amount of money a consolation for his dishonor.
    But the Torah is silent on the pimping of daughter by her father for money.

    “The parents are against the violation so they are not pimping.”

    The Torah doesn’t regard the pimping of a man’s daughters as a violation of law, ethics or even his honors, so why would any Jewish father object that “business option” to get money?

  17. θ says:

    “madmanna says: The payment of the dowry is a deterrent to the ploy of forcing the parents to give their daughter in marriage by having pre-marital sex to force a fait accompli.”

    On the contrary, Madmanna. It rather gives incentives, encouraging any Jewish father to let his unmarried daughters seduce the men as many possible to obtain money as much as possible, it is because unmarried daughters are still his property.
    Worse, the Torah just doesn’t criminalise unmarried daughters and father for this lucrative pimping activities.

  18. madmanna says:

    Prostitution is against the law.

    “King James Bible
    Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.”

    In Islam a woman can be a whore and marry someone temporarily. Is Islam sex slaves are also compelled to be whores by muslim males and sold from one man to another at the sex slave market.

    The married woman can also be abandoned by the muslim male by recitation of the divorce formula. Thus she is forced to become a whore and prostitute herself to survive. A wicked religion if ever there was one.

  19. madmanna says:

    I said no comments about translation. Your comment is deleted.

  20. θ says:

    Correction:
    Thus, Lev 19:29 does *not* talk about a prohibition of the dirty pimping of a man’s daughter to other men.
    After all, of course her father would not pay herself any payment of resentment nor dowry whatsoever after consummating her.

  21. madmanna says:

    “The Torah doesn’t count a pre-marital free sex with the unmarried girls as sin of adultery because there’s no violation of marriage vow.”

    There is no adultery because neither of the persons is betrothed or married.

    “Mu’tah in the NT: Marriage with unbelieving spouse makes the body of that unbeliever a “holy unbeliever”, but somewhat such a holy unbeliever is also encouraged to divorce a faithful spouse anytime, sooner is better.”

    There is no encouragement, unlike in Islam, because it is adultery to abandon or divorce your spouse according to the words of Jesus. These words apply equally to all, whether believer or unbeliever:

    King James Bible
    Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.

    King James Bible
    But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

    Whereas on the other hand in Islam Allah gives muslim males the power of divorce by recitation and expects them to make use of it or else why has he given them this power?

  22. θ says:

    “madmanna says: There is no encouragement, unlike in Islam, because it is adultery to abandon or divorce your spouse according to the words of Jesus. These words apply equally to all, whether believer or unbeliever:”

    Jesus can be so unexpected, contradictory and impractical.
    Jesus encourages a divorcement:
    Mt 19:29
    And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

    “Whereas on the other hand in Islam Allah gives muslim males the power of divorce by recitation and expects them to make use of it or else why has he given them this power?”

    To make it even and equal with a permission given on husband to divorce his wives by recitation, by Islamic dowry a husband’s bankruptcy is likewise set to come as fast as his verbal divorcement.
    A divorcement can be as painful, difficult, and risky as inflicting the bankruptcy for a man if his wife has firmly tied him with a verbal promise of paying a huge amount of the delayed dowry.

    Dowry in Islam is designed to be couple marriage’s insurance internally, it plays the function as prevention as well as punishment for husband’s finance.

    There’s strong indication that one husband may be going to divorce wife anytime soon if she is married with amount of dowry that is not regarded harmful for the financial security of her husband.

  23. madmanna says:

    “Jesus can be so unexpected, contradictory and impractical.
    Jesus encourages a divorcement:
    Mt 19:29
    And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.”

    Not so.

    The things forsaken can be things that one has or that one could have, if one so chose.

    The forsaking of a thing can be a passing moment until a later time or longer.

  24. θ says:

    Regardless whether one will remarry his divorced wife again soon or not, having said this Mt 19:29 provides what you have not expected Jesus of commanding he purports to say: Jesus approves divorcement, that is to say forsaking his wife, so to speak.

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