You have to be forgiven by Jesus before you can be forgiven by the Father

This is the Ordo Salutis. Jesus said “I am the Door”:

John 10 v  9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

We can either comply with this sequence of events and be saved or reject it and try to bypass Jesus and go directly to the Father as Muslims claim to do upon the authority of their prophet Mohammed. Those who are so foolish will pay the ultimate price.

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3 Responses to You have to be forgiven by Jesus before you can be forgiven by the Father

  1. θ says:

    Matthew 18 is the most Anti-Sacrifice in the Gospels. Therein either Jesus excludes himself totally from being a forgiver, or Jesus mistakenly commits an error of making his followers some divine semi-forgivers in the Trinitarian standard of theology.
    Mt 18:35
    So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

  2. Anonymous says:

    For the Reformed, Protestants and Evangelicals, Matthew 18 is a total theological mess that directly illustrates the strongest rebuttal of the Sola Fide as Jesus describes how a forgiven servant – by the mercy – eventually ends up in prison and torment just because of the absence of his good works toward the fellow servants.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Other theological mess for the Reformed on Matthew 18.
    Infant baptism:
    Mt 18:5
    And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

    Sola Fide (conversion) is not enough without the good works.
    Mt 18
    3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

    Other heavenly mediators for children beside Jesus.
    Mt 18:10
    Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.

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