The Angels, the Holy Spirit, the Samaritans and John the Baptist proclaim a Saviour who will save the world, and not just warn the Jews, as Islamists claim

Luke 2 v

4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.

26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.

27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,

28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,

29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

John 1 v 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

John 3 v

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

The Jesus goes to the Samaritans, who have been rejected by the Jews because of their impure lineage, to prove that he is the Saviour of the world:

John 4 v

40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days.

41 And many more believed because of his own word;

42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

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2 Responses to The Angels, the Holy Spirit, the Samaritans and John the Baptist proclaim a Saviour who will save the world, and not just warn the Jews, as Islamists claim

  1. θ says:

    None of the angels, the Holy Spirit, the Samaritans and John the Baptist proclaims that Jesus will bear the sins of the world. Taking away the sins (just as the darkness of Passover takes away the firstborn sons of Egypt) means destroying the sin with the external forces, it is totally different than the act of bearing the sin internally within himself.

  2. Anonymous says:

    The word Savior in the Tanach means the liberator or conqueror.
    Since the Father is the Savior, is the Father also an offering of sin?

    A distortion of the meaning of “Savior” is a proof how the Christians tampered a lot with the Tanach of the Jews.
    Nowhere does the Tanach promise the Messiah to be a “sin offering” of which that the Christians have misinterpreted in their NT as “Savior” in relation to sin. Rather, the word Savior in the Tanach is synonymous to a war hero, liberator or conqueror.

    In Jewish literature, two Moshiachs shall be two warriors of the battles in which Moshiach ben Joseph gets killed and another one Moshiach ben David is victorious, hence fulfilling a role of Savior.
    Also, nowhere does the Jews interpret a controversial “Suffering Servant” of Isaiah 53 as a Jewish Moshiach, not even a slain Moshiach ben Joseph.

    At most, what the Tanach teaches is that the Messiah will come as both a Priest (of the Temple) and a Savior (of the battle fields), but he is not to be an offering of sin itself.
    A Priest just acts as facilitator or administrator of the Temple. A Savior acts as a warrior in the battle fields.

    Previously God had intended to make each firstborn son of Israelites a group of Priests for God’s sacred places. Due to the fall of idolatry, the first option was overturned, so then the role of ministering the sanctuaries is given to the Levites.
    Therefore, one of the most weakest arguments of Christianity on the status of Messiah of Jesus is their wrong meaning of “Savior” that they misinterpret as the offering (in relation to sin), even being as incorrect as a Priest.
    In fact, according to Tanach, a Priest works in the Temple, whereas a Savior works with swords and troops to fight the enemies.

    Even, both God and Jewish warriors are praised equally as “Saviors” who lead the battles. Nowhere does the word “Savior” get related to the Priesthood. Nowhere is God the Savior called a “Priest” either.

    In a nutshell, the entire tactics of the Christians in distorting a simple meaning of “Savior” of the Tanach (which just means a war hero) can be explained as this way:
    (i) Firstly, they accept that the status of Messiah is related to a Priesthood, that is he acts as a Priest for Jews.
    (ii) They accept that the work of Messiah in the Tanach is related to a Savior (liberator, conqueror) of the battles.
    (iii) They accept that a Jewish Priest ministers the offerings and atonement in the Temple.
    (iv) Now, here is a trick: there’s the absence of the Temple and absence of war hero throughout the core teachings of Jesus.
    (v) Hence, they add another trick: making a shortcut between (i) and (iii): a Savior “is” an offering of sin itself.

    Therefore, it is obvious how far worse and so misleading the Christians have changed, twisted, distorted and tampered with a crucial word “Savior” of the Tanach.

    Therefore, actually the Jews can so easily reverse back a theological distortion of the word “Savior” by Christians by just asking them: Since the Father is the Savior, is the Father also a Priest of Jews?
    Since the Father is the Savior, is the Father also an offering of sin itself?

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