Some deft replies by Kev

What Happened To The Woman In Deuteronomy 21:10-14?

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It is often the case among some Christian missionaries to twist and misrepresent the Bible in order to suit their 21st-century worldview. Christian missionaries too embarrassed of certain verses they want to make the Bible adapt to liberal, Secular values. In doing this, they go out of their way to give an alien and deceptive interpretation of verses. One such example is Deuteronomy 21:10-14 claiming that the women that were captured in warfare weren’t raped. But a closer look at the text it tells us that these women were taken forcefully and raped:

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 Good News Translation (GNT)
“10 When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, 11 you may see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. 12 TAKE HER to your home, where she will shave her head, cut her fingernails, 13 and change her clothes. She…

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  1. Only the most gullible fool would find your article convincing. LOL.

    The point is to prevent rape, you fool!

    If you rape the captive, you keep her, which means you support her, you are responsible for her under the law, and she has the right of every other israelite.

    The teaching is absolutely clear to anyone with half a brain – they were forbidden from raping, or forcing sex on the women without those women being imparted with rights under mosaic law. So, if you have sex with her, you cannot sell her or treat her poorly. In other words, no casual rape of female captives.

    BY contrat mohammed allowed his soldiers to rape captive and sell them off. (see sura 4:24, sura 33:50).

    Also, from the authentic hadith…..

    SAHIH BUKHARI – VOLUME 9, #506:
    Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relations with them without impregnating them. So they asked the prophet about coitus interruptus. The prophet said, “It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection”

    The point of the above is that muslims were allowed to rape captives, and re-sell them so long as they did not make the women pregnant.

    Another key difference – and you guys keep avoiding the issue – is that muslims are obliged to follow the example of mohammed. He exemplified the rape and selling off of captives, Mosaic law exemplified a heap of responsibility and rights give to captives if you decided to rape them. According to Bukhari above, mohammed gave his soldiers strategies to avoid abiding by the humane law of moses.

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    • Kev your fictional claims have been dismantled already…Br Paul has a page here on his blog dedication toward refuting the same myths you spilled in here lol

      http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/does_islam_permit_muslim_men_to_rape_their_slave_girls_

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    • Omar

      I read that drivel of an article but failed to notice how my argument has been dismantled. Worse still, it makes your legal experts and mohammed’s companions seem far more moral than your prophet.

      In fact, that article was hilarious. By definition slaves and captive slaves cannot give consent, otherwise they wouldn’t be slave and captives. Of course, zawadi ignores the glaring problem of selling them off after raping them.

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4 Responses to Some deft replies by Kev

  1. Anonymous says:

    A forced marriage is the rape in subtle way.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Legalising the rape with the forced marriage doesn’t change a fact the female slave is forced to get laid – regardless with ceremony or not – even it makes the law so bad. The priests and crowds celebrate the rape.

    What about the fate of unattractive slaves?
    There’s a gap of “loophole” on Moses’ Law in which there is an overlooking on the rape of a property (female slave) that isn’t beautiful enough for her master to marry. A Jewish slave master has the upper right to silence her when forcing her into a ravishing against her will. Even if she screamed, her slave master can’t be accused of defiling her.

    Zech 14:2
    For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

    Isa 13
    13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

  3. madmanna says:

    “What about the fate of unattractive slaves?
    There’s a gap of “loophole” on Moses’ Law in which there is an overlooking on the rape of a property (female slave) that isn’t beautiful enough for her master to marry. A Jewish slave master has the upper right to silence her when forcing her into a ravishing against her will. Even if she screamed, her slave master can’t be accused of defiling her.”

    I reply:

    The woman wouldn’t be given in to that situation unless her master married her. She would stay in her father’s house. She wouldn’t become someone’s servant except by marriage. That is the normal situation I think we see depicted in scripture.

    Besides the slave woman in Israelite society, contrary to the slave woman of Islam, can marry anyone she pleases so she would be unlikely to enter into this situation as her family would marry her off. There are enough “unattractive” men for “unattractive” women to marry.

  4. Anonymous says:

    The female slaves are confined in the jails as prisoners, where her hair and nails would grow neglected, even she is clothed with inmate cloth. The prisoners do not have rights, not even to say “No”.
    Dt 21:10
    When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners.

    Hence, how could a female prisoner remain to stay in her father’s house? how could she marry other unattractive man in prison? As inmates, the unattractive slaves would remain unmarried.

    The attractive female slave is given into a worse condition in which she would experience a painful humiliation where the priests and crowds cheer joyously – usually they dance frantically too – to have her raped “legally” by her master. Her master could not have waited the wedding ceremony too long.

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