Fact-checking Reza Aslan, love your neighbour as yourself, from David Wood

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5 Responses to Fact-checking Reza Aslan, love your neighbour as yourself, from David Wood

  1. θ says:

    The problem is, nowhere does Jesus suggest people to love their self, rather they need to hate their life, hence if they have to hate themselves, how could then they genuinely love their neighbors?
    Lk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
    Mt 10:28 Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:

    In Islam, self-hating is a mentality of the Non-Moslems (Q.40, v.10), even the foolishness of self-mockery is forbidden (Q.49, v.11).
    During the time of Prophet Muhammad, Moslems love neighbors more than they love themselves per Q.59, v.9.

  2. madmanna says:

    ” hence if they have to hate themselves, how could then they genuinely love their neighbors?”

    If x then how can y etc etc. is not an argument. And then a bible verse tagged on at the end. I need some explanation as to why x and y are necessarily exclusive. In this case if someone hates himself he is not able to genuinely love another. Just asking the question is not an argument or explanation. So your comment is deleted. All comments with this type of argument will be deleted.

  3. θ says:

    “madmanna says: If x then how can y etc etc. is not an argument. And then a bible verse tagged on at the end. I need some explanation as to why x and y are necessarily exclusive. In this case if someone hates himself he is not able to genuinely love another. Just asking the question is not an argument or explanation. ”

    It is otherwise.
    Luke 14:26 infers that if person hates another, it means he hates himself. Hence, how can he love neighbor if he hates another and himself?
    In Luke 14:26 a person should hate everyone.

  4. madmanna says:

    The mandatory hatred is not a replacement for love which would be compulsory in any given situation such as helping someone in need. It rather refers to situations where a free choice is given where no choice made would break the royal law but we would not be loving God to the maximum extent possible. From his disciples Jesus demands the maximum possible love for him which can be given. This inevitably incurs a cost to others which is referred to as hatred but is not actually breaking the law. Such as the following examples:

    The Cost of Following Jesus

    (Matthew 8:18-22; Luke 14:25-33; John 6:60-65)

    57And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. 58And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. 59And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 60Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. 61And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house. 62And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

  5. θ says:

    Jesus gives a quick example of hatred, such as hating the parents, by dismissing the important and the most intense burial procession of a man’s father, which occurs only “once of a lifetime”, as a farewell gesture of loving. But Jesus responds by shockingly giving a very irritating response: Let the dead (brothers, sisters, kids, kin, wife, mother) bury their dead (someone’s father).
    Mt 8
    21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

    How can you love another whom you are commanded to hate?

    Compare with our Prophet Muhammad who stands up to respect the unknown Jews who walk to bury a dead Jew.
    Bukhari 1250, Sahih Muslim 961
    Qais ibn Sa’d reported: A funeral passed by the Messenger of Allah, and he stood up. It was said to him, It is a Jew. The Prophet said, Was he not a soul?

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