Muslim professor: “Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”, from Jihad Watch by Robert Spencer

Few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage. Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).

Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.

Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.

Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:

The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.

Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”

According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.

Ishaq Akintola

“Islam has no age barrier for marriage — MURIC Director, Akintola,” Punch, March 6, 2016:

A professor of Islamic Eschatology and Director of Muslim Rights Concern, Ishaq Akintola, speaks with BAYO AKINLOYE about the abduction saga of Ese Oruru

Is child marriage permitted in Islam, looking beyond the case of Ese Oruru?

Islam is a complete way of life. As a religion, non-Muslims will have to take Muslims as they are, not as they want them to be. Neither Muslims nor their religion should be judged according to other standards. There will never be any inter-religious understanding so long as non-Muslims continue to measure Muslims and their way of life by Christian, Buddhist or Confucianist yardsticks. The simple truth is: Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this, particularly since 99.99 per cent of such marriages are conducted among Muslims themselves. If the man is a Muslim and the girl is also a Muslim and the girl’s parents give their approval, what is the business of any non-Muslim in that? It is sheer interference in the affair of Muslims and an attempt to exert undue influence on them. More often than not, those who interfere in this manner have ulterior motives. It is either for the purpose of smearing the image of Islam or to gain a comparative advantage and score a religious point (for their own faith of course).

We are not unaware of all these antics, yet we patiently endure them. Non-Muslims should therefore keep off Muslims’ affairs. Who are non-Muslims to be the judge of Muslims when every religious group has its own failings? This interference often causes unnecessary strain on Christian-Muslim relationship. Despite the fact that our Christian neighbours sing the hymn ‘I want to be like Jesus…’ repeatedly, they are not behaving like Jesus (peace be upon him). Neither are they following his teachings. There will be peace if they do. But they don’t. Jesus taught Christians to mind their own business and to resist the temptation to judge others. He said, ‘Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure that you give will be the measure you get.’

That means your organisation, Muslim Right Concern, supports child marriage?  

I am a Muslim and I support all truly Muslim practices. Our organisation, MURIC, is an Islamic human rights outfit. So naturally we should support all principles of Islam. It promotes Allah-given fundamental human rights as well as Allah-given fundamental rights of all creatures, animals – mammals, invertebrates, birds in the sky, the environment and all natural entities. Everything created by Allah has a right. We promote their rights. MURIC believes in all Shariah-compliant marriages, regardless of the age of the girl. The sensationalisation of intra-Muslim marriages to the so-called minors is uncalled for and, more often than not, done with hidden malice. For your information, we don’t have what you call ‘child marriage’. We have nikah (Islamic marriage). I affirm clearly, emphatically and unequivocally, that what happens among Muslims is strictly a Muslim affair and should remain so as long as it is Shariah-compliant. Non-Muslims have no right to poke their noses into any religious action taken by Muslims for Muslims. Nikah is a marriage of the Muslims conducted by the Muslims for the Muslims. How the Muslims do it is nobody’s business. Do we come into the church to criticise the way marriages are conducted? Have Muslims said anything about gay marriages inside churches? That is the Christian way of life and they should stop attempts to impose their lifestyle on Muslims. We will never allow that. It is an attempt to subject Muslims to public ridicule.

You cannot hold us in contempt and talk about love. It is sheer deceit. It is hypocrisy. Even Jesus (peace be upon him) called those who ignore their own faults to interfere in other people’s matters, hypocrites. He said, “Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye’ when there is a log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” So, instead of paying attention to marriages conducted among Muslims, Christians should do something about gay marriages inside churches.

What is your view on the abduction, forceful marriage and conversion to Islam of Ese Oruru by Yunusa Dahiru?  

MURIC issued a statement on this ugly episode immediately it broke out. Let me pick the highlights. It was a kind of Romeo and Juliet affair. We demanded that Yunusa Dahiru, the ‘boyfriend’ with whom the girl eloped, should be arrested and prosecuted because the girl is a minor and a Christian. Attempting to marry off the girl without her parent’s permission is not only a breach of common law but also a violation of the Shariah provision on the need for the parents’ approval before nikah can be deemed valid. La nikah bila waliyyin is a basic condition before marriage can be conducted in Islam and Qur’an 4:25 lays emphasis on this same condition. Now, we cannot talk of forceful marriage in this case because both parents of Yunusa, the Shari’ah Council in Kano and even the Emir himself, His Eminence Alhaji Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, refused to conduct the marriage on the basis that the girl is a Christian; she is underage and her parents had not given consent. So there was no marriage.

Where is the forceful marriage they keep talking about? But we in MURIC are displeased with the conduct of our Romeo (Yunusa) for two major reasons: One, he did not listen to his father who warned him not to bring the girl to Kano. Islam frowns heavily on disobedience to parents –Qur’an 17:23; 31:14. Two, contrary to the provisions of Qur’an 17:32 which forbids fornication and adultery, he may have had carnal knowledge of the girl because it is now being rumoured that Juliet (Ese) is five months pregnant. MURIC is not going to say Yunusa is innocent just because he is a Muslim. Islam teaches justice and fairness. The religion or tribe of the parties involved does not matter. The Qur’an commands Muslims to ‘…Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses of Allah, even if the case is against yourselves, or your parents, or your family, and whether it is against a rich or poor man…’ That is why we called for Yunusa the Romeo’s arrest.

Ijaw youths are not looking at it from an objective angle. They are spoiling for war. All they see is a northerner that abducted their daughter. But is it abduction or elopement? Can we prevent a young boy and a young girl from falling in love with each other? Even Ese’s father has his own faults despite his attempt to blame the Emir of Kano. But the truth is, Ese’s father has a big portion of the blame; same with the mother. How did they train their daughter?

But is the forceful conversion right?

Regarding Ese’s conversion, it is not acceptable to us yet, until the girl is 18. At least, that is what the Nigerian law says and we have to comply since we are Nigerians. The condition for accepting conversion as valid in Islam is different, however. It is buluug, which is maturity that matters. Buluug is measured by the time the girl starts menstruating, which may vary according to her physiological condition….

Religious crises are not uncommon in the country. Is there a potential for this situation to degenerate into a religious and tribal upheaval? Yes, it is quite dicey. There are extremists, terrorists and fanatics on both sides of the divide. We need to step up enlightenment about the need for religious tolerance. But above all, we need to leave the Muslims alone. Let the Muslims go. Nigerian Christians should stop measuring Muslims by Christian yardsticks. We have different norms and values. Let us respect one another’s freedom of religion.

Yunusa is seen by many as the culprit in Ese’s predicament. Do you think he acted alone?  

What else are we looking for? We have seen Juliet. We have seen Romeo. Are we still looking for the whole feuding Montague and Capulet families?

Would you prefer Yunusa being tried under Sharia to being tried under the penal or criminal law, having allegedly committed crimes across two states?  

Oh yes, I would love that (to be tried under Sharia law)!…

Following Ese’s case is a growing number of allegations of other minors being abducted, forced into marriage and converted to Islam. Isn’t this worrisome?  

Which cases? Do you have the proof? Why is the press more interested in investigating Muslims and anti-Muslim whistleblowers? That is my worry. Why is the press silent about hundreds of Muslim children taken to Christian camps from Edo State? Why isn’t the press interested in that? People are free to beat about the bush anyway. They have to justify their pay. The Henry Townsend spirit has to be there too, you know.

What is the Muslim community going to do about these alleged abductions (like the one in Sokoto)?  

There you go again! Baseless, clueless, unfounded and untenable allegations; rumours, rumours and rumours! Where you have cases, bring them forward. You cannot turn us into suspects overnight. You know where abduction is rampant. I won’t mention states. Why is the Nigerian press so keen on causing distractions? A whole region has turned abduction into family and tribal business. The Nigerian press looks the other way and starts prying into issues that have nothing to do with abduction.

Abductions of female children for sex slavery and forced marriage have become a trend in the country. What’s the way out?  

That’s not true. You are making a mountain out of a molehill and I am not under any obligation to answer that kind of question. It is prejudicial. I respect the press and I will continue to cooperate with them but I will not be an accomplice to untruth. Better still, if you must have an answer, the security agencies are the ones who would provide an answer to your question.

COMMENTS
      • Lee says

        March 7, 2016 at 2:19 pm

        I think the difference is, in the Christian world and the West generally, the religion and culture do not tolerate as a matter of faith and practice child molestation (boys and girls). In the Isalmic world it is not only tolerated, it’s celebrated. The fact that the various priests who have been involved in pedophelia have had to be hidden is indicative of the fact that it isn’t tolerated. This article indicated the opposite is true in Islam. Not that every Muslim is a practicing child rapist, but if they were they would not be criticized. They would be regarded as having found a blessing to capture and be able to use a child as a sex slave. If you can’t see the difference, I pity you for your moral blindness.

        • mortimer says

          March 7, 2016 at 2:48 pm

          Imam al Nawawi had no criticism for the rape of boys or girls, but insisted men must do the proper ritual washing afterwards before they go to prayer.

          balam is not aware that pedophilia is believed to be criminal as well as a grievous sin in all churches. All churches now see pedophilia as a psychiatric as well as a legal problem.

          Muslims still see pedophilia as normative Islam, just like Ishaq Akintola who is a ‘professor’ at a Muslim college. Islam cannot condemn pedophilia without making Mohammed into a criminal and thereby implying that Islam is false.

        • Lee says

          March 7, 2016 at 2:57 pm

          So you are saying Balam is not aware of the difference between Islam and Christianity (and the West in general since I’m including a post-Christain Europe)?

        • Michael Copeland says

          March 8, 2016 at 9:10 am

          200,000 juihadists ready to burn down Parliament
          “Notorious pro-Taliban Islamist clergy in Bangladesh, Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini has threatened to wage jihad in the country if the government will pass any law banning child marriage.
          He said, two hundred thousand Jihadists of his group are ready to ‘sacrifice’ lives if any such law, which goes against “Koran and Sunnah” will be passed…”
          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/04/bangladesh-islamic-cleric-threatens-jihad-if-child-marriage-is-banned

        • Lee says

          March 8, 2016 at 10:43 am

          Thanks for that refresher. Islam is replete with examples of the barbarity, the primitive, base, vulgar, demeaning, unholy, wicked, and inhuman behavior to which these heathen will descend.

        • linnte says

          March 8, 2016 at 1:08 pm

          Wow! I did not realise Jihad Watch went back so far! 2011! I guess it is time for me to check out these old News Letters! Thanks Michael!

      • linnte says

        March 7, 2016 at 4:56 pm

        I CAN’T STAND IT!!! I can’t stand that Muslims do not and refuse to, understand that fucking a nine year old is putrid! Her vagina isn’t even ready, I KNOW because I am a woman and have been raped. I truly am always absolutely astounded at the mentality of Muslims who agree with Sharia. Go home to your country of Origin!!! Oh, but that’s right, you don’t want to because the goal of Islam is to create Sharia rule for the world. I am no Christian, but a Pagan, so I can surly say to you FUCK YOU and I pray daily that Islam is destroyed!

      • Myxlplik says

        March 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm

        Balam

        A logical complaint regarding Catholicism, but this behavior isn’t actually Church doctrine. Celibacy is, raping is not. Also Balam, you are free to criticize Catholics as much as you like without fear of death, so fire away.

        • Carolyne says

          March 8, 2016 at 12:33 pm

          That’s the thing Muslims are too intellectually lacking to understand. Christians do not condone as a matter of faith the raping of a child, although some Christians may do so but it is against all Christian and civil law. The Christians who practice pedophilia are criminals and are prosecuted as such if apprehended.

          The reason we object to such a barbaric practice is on moral grounds. A child cannot legally give his permission to be sexually abused. He has not reached the age at which such permission may be given. So even if these poor children assent to this barbarism, they are not yet legally able to do so. .

          It is not only Christian duty to protect children, any children, Christian or not, it is our moral duty to see that our laws against such behavior is enforced. Therefore, a gorilla like the above disgusting creature such keep his hands off children. In fact, I can think of a woman of any color who would wish to have intercourse with him.

          I am an Atheist, but my own code of morals condemn this behavior toward children and women. I demand that it be stopped in Western countries.

      • Champ says

        March 7, 2016 at 8:37 pm

        balam wrote:

        So do the CATHOLICS. Look at the practice of PAEDOPHILIA by the CATHOLIC PRIESTS. Why don’t they get married instead?

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

        C’mon, the Catholic church, and Christianity — on the whole, does NOT sanction pedophilia; nor is it permissible in the Holy Bible. Whereas islam DOES sanction such evil, and practicing pedophilia is supported and taught in the unholy quran and the hadiths. Big difference! A difference only intelligent people grasp.

        • SoCalMike says

          March 7, 2016 at 9:15 pm

          Pedophiles and congenital liars can’t open their mouths without lying.

          They should be put down and exterminated rather than wasting breath talking to.
          The entire lot of them.

      • Mary Bennett says

        March 7, 2016 at 8:51 pm

        Stupid question!
        1. Pedophilia is sinful; those who do this are hurting children and betraying Catholicism, NOT
        living by the teachings of the Church!
        2. Why don’t they get married? Marriage will not “cure” those who have these terribly warped tendencies. Also, WHO WOULD WANT TO MARRY SOMEONE LIKE THAT?

      • SoCalMike says

        March 7, 2016 at 9:09 pm

        Far more public school leftists do this than priests by a factor of more than 10-1.
        The difference is that it isn’t sanctioned legally or theologically in Christianity.
        It is in Islam.

        This is the norm in Islam.

        In Christian countries we put them in prison for multiple life sentences.
        In Islamic countries they throw the equivalent of a party.

      • Frank says

        March 8, 2016 at 10:31 am

        The pedophiles of the catholic church have been documentd to be satanists. See AA-1025. I can only assume that this is the case in any of these perversions.

    • maghan says

      March 7, 2016 at 6:14 pm

      That silly man. Just a mental slave to primitive Islam a lazy concoction by primitive desert Arabs and this ignorant man, a slave to Arab cultural imperialism sees nothing wrong.

      • SoCalMike says

        March 7, 2016 at 9:13 pm

        Far more public school leftists do this than priests by a factor of more than 10-1.
        The difference is that it isn’t sanctioned legally or theologically in Christianity.
        It is in Islam.

        This is the norm in Islam.

        In Christian countries we put them in prison for multiple life sentences.
        In Islamic countries they throw the equivalent of a party.

        • Carolyne says

          March 8, 2016 at 12:37 pm

          I am not disputing your statement, but I would like to know where you obtained the statistics that public schools have ten times more pedophiles than the priesthood.
          Thank you.

      • Panmelia says

        March 8, 2016 at 12:59 pm

        Agree. Time to look at the situation coldly with a view to exterminating wicked men who use islam as an excuse for paedophilia and the abuse of women and children.

        An Israeli-led international death squad targeting this Nigerian pervert and all islamic ‘scholars’, clerics, imams or whatever in every country in the world whenever they open their filthy mouths to pronounce on their filthy ‘religion’ and its filthy ‘law’.

        That would be a start.

        • Timothy Jordan says

          March 8, 2016 at 1:47 pm

          More like penis envy. muhammad must have had a very small penis if he wanted a declitorized and sewn-up 9 year old. That would explain so much of his behaviour and legacy.

          Christians have every right to judge islam. We see it’s evil and we know it is from satan, not God.

        • linnte says

          March 8, 2016 at 2:00 pm

          Timothy, I have just come around to your thinking that ISLAM is a demonic form of worship. I struggled with it for a while because I need to see evidence before I make a judgement call. But you are correct. It dawned on me when viewing how Halal meat is slaughtered! In my life, I have known many “Satanists”. And the sacrifice to Satan is done EXACTLY the same way as the Muslims do. Same words said over the sacrifice too. Not that all the evils they already perpetrate didn’t convince me of their link with Satan! But the sacrifice is a very personal form of connecting with that being. And they don’t every day. Sheeeit!

  1. miriamrove says

    March 7, 2016 at 12:30 pm

    So this is a human rights org.? Yes the Islamic version of one. One that protects muslim men for being prosecuted and justified for raping and sodomizing 9 year old girl. M

    • jihad3tracker says

      March 7, 2016 at 12:50 pm

      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, MICHAEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      BUT, A “DEVOUT” EXAMPLE OF THAT NOBLE OCCUPATION. I HAVE CONCLUDED THAT FOR ABOUT 90% OF MUSLIM MEN, THE APPROVAL OF PRE-TEENS FOR SEX IS A MAJOR FACTOR IN THEIR LOVE OF ISLAM.

  2. Jay Boo says

    March 7, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,”
    How did that work out?

    Many young men died in a futile war with Iraq after the 1979 Revolution and are nothing but fertilizer for pushing up Iran’s red tulips. No nine year old virgins for them.

  3. Lee says

    March 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm

    Anyone (except leftists, Fellow Travellers, and Useful Idiots) still think the Crusades was a bad idea? It’s unfortunate there was too much infighting in Latin and Greek kingdoms to unite and push the savages back to Mecca, and there lay waste to the city. The ground should have been sown with salt like Rome did to Carthage.

    • Randy says

      March 7, 2016 at 1:00 pm

      You are right!!
      And the native Americans should start a crusade against the Christians who invaded their lands by the millions!! All Christians should go back to the Holy lands

      • Jay Boo says

        March 7, 2016 at 1:03 pm

        Randy
        You should realize that the Crusades were in self defense against repeated invasions by bloodthirsty Mohammadians.

      • Charli Main says

        March 7, 2016 at 1:36 pm

        Need to get your facts right. These ” native Americans” you keep carping on about are not ” native Americans ” at all. They are Asian immigrant invaders who attacked and occupied the Americas only a few thousand years before Europeans arrived on the same continent.

        • RAB says

          March 8, 2016 at 10:24 am

          What nonsense! The Americas were in general uninhabited before the “Asian immigrant invaders,” as you put it, allegedly attacked. Why don’t you read a little history before commenting on something you obviously know absolutely nothing about?

        • Carolyne says

          March 8, 2016 at 12:53 pm

          Actually, after the first Mongolians crossed the land bridge which is now the Bering Straits, there were waves of migrants over thousands of years who moved south as the ice age glaciers receded and overwhelmed those who were already here. In fact, there was an immigration of Inuits across the Bering Straits only 600 years ago who displaced the population in the far north.

          You might take your own advice, RAB. And your statement that the Americas were “In general uninhabited” indicates that there were “Generally” people already here. How do you account for that?

        • Charli Main says

          March 8, 2016 at 1:17 pm

          @ RAB
          Your the one who needs to do some research before making ignorant statements about things YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
          Europeans were the first people to settle in the Americas, about 10,000years before the Asian invaders arrived. European style tools, made of French flint, have been found on a number of sites along the East Coast of America.
          I could go on endlessly about the subject, but I cant be bothered to waste time trying to educate dickheads like you.

      • Lee says

        March 7, 2016 at 2:00 pm

        So you’re in favor of human sacrifice then?

        I asked for anyone OTHER than leftist, Fellow Travellers, and Useful Idiots. Which are you? If you don’t know, then the CPUSA has a place for you to help with Bernie’s miserable campaign of surrender.

      • maghan says

        March 7, 2016 at 6:22 pm

        Ignorant comment. North America is a vast landmass and when the Paleo Asians(erroneously called Native Americans) crossed over from Asia via the Siberian Land Bridge their population in different waves grew only to some 5 to 10 million for all of North America. Even today, one can drive through North America and see nothing but vast empty spaces.

        There were no borders or people at the gate demanding passports and visas.

        • Carolyne says

          March 8, 2016 at 12:57 pm

          And there are more American Indians living today than there were when the first Europeans arrived. I don’t know why Randy thinks his analogy is appropriate here, but he persists.

      • Western Canadian says

        March 7, 2016 at 10:48 pm

        Widdo Wandy is actually a muslim, raised on lies about the west. Or a hard left loon, raised on lies about the west….. Rather hard to tell them apart…..

  4. Randy says

    March 7, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    The Catholic Church was good at covering up the sex abuse of children and protecting the priests involved.

      • Shmooviyet says

        March 7, 2016 at 2:34 pm

        Ha ha, @miriam– a big bowl-full of the white stuff, with a blob of the sticky black stuff thrown in for good measure.
        Same mixture the ultra-defensive professor uses: “Everything created by Allah has a right”.

    • Lee says

      March 7, 2016 at 1:42 pm

      Randy this isn’t that difficult. In Christian circles, predatory sexual behavior is frowned upon. In Islamic religion it’s supported by Sharia. In The West, try that and we might just cut your privates off. Try that in Iran and you’ll get an attaboy. The fact that the priests had to be hidden is evident your attempted analogy is total BS.

    • maghan says

      March 7, 2016 at 6:28 pm

      Curiously enough Muslims don’t cover up the fact that Muhammad, their most perfect role model, was a pedophile and child rapist. Some scholars of Islam even accuse of bisexuality given his reported consorting with young boys. Saudi scholars of Islam say openly that Muhammad “thighed” Aisha from the age of 6 till the age of 9.

    • Western Canadian says

      March 7, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      And again widdo wandy comes by to drop his load, the same old load of pure slop that he usually drops. Utter and complete moron, even for a troll.

  5. MP says

    March 7, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    That Goon can say whatever he wants to justify it but it amounts to being a Child Molesting Pervert & No other Countries do NOT have to accept this & will not this is the only Cult that could promote such a perverted belief I think they should be prosecuted Only a Dam Fool could or would support this type of Behavior Islamic beliefs have no place in Western Society.

    • Carolyne says

      March 8, 2016 at 1:00 pm

      I just wonder why Randy thinks his “History” of the Americas has anything whatever to do with pedophilia. Perhaps he doesn’t know the meaning of the word, “Pedophilia.”

      • Timothy Jordan says

        March 8, 2016 at 2:03 pm

        The better term is “homosexuality”. When we talk of “Pedophilia”, it obscures the truth that the terrible damage done to so many boys was done by homosexuals who exploited the priesthood for their selfish and sinful pleasure. It’s not Catholics to blame. It’s gays who are always claiming victim status. It’s faggots who did that to the boys.

        Imagine if your mother is young enough to be your big sister.

  6. Tiredofstupid says

    March 7, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    If child marriage is a muslim privilege that must be honored then keep it in muslim countries and do not come to non-muslim countries with your rights and customs. Stay in your own countries or better yet go back to the original muslim country of Arabia and leave the originally christian countries of eygpt, turkey, syria, the north african countries, as well as the buddhist, hindu, zorastrian etc countries you stole and plundered from the original peoples that were indigenous to them. All civilized, modern countries and societies recognize the damage that underage sex and marriage does to vulnerable children and abhor the practice and make it illegal everywhere in the world that is civilized, which, of course, leaves out islamic countries.

  7. Shmooviyet says

    March 7, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    It’s “exerting undue influence” on muslims to “interfere” on the subject of child marriage! Mind your business!

    ‘Undue (and threatening, bloodthirsty) influence’ is precisely HOW islam has acquired so many of the huge numbers of followers it constantly crows of (1.6 Billions– that’s Billions with a B!)– and how it KEEPS them!

    @Michael Casmer above said, “he looks like a pimp.” Yep.
    Pimp Harvey Keitel’s grotesque selling-point “praises” of Jodie Foster’s youthful charms in “Taxi Driver” come to mind.
    Scum is scum.

  8. mortimer says

    March 7, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    Ishaq Akintola is an example of the problem in Nigeria. This is a Muslim scholar and he speaks more or less like a thug, veiled threats and all.

    Ishaq Akintola obviously is the sort of person that makes it hard to defeat Boko Haram. He looks looks backward to the 7th century.

    Civilized people just call his point of view ‘pedophilia’.

    • maghan says

      March 7, 2016 at 6:34 pm

      No, the plain truth is that this man is just stupid. Stringing words together doesn’t mean much if what you say is just stupid. At the risk of being censored Akintola is just another of those dumb, brainwashed African slaves of Arab Islam. The poison of Islam has just plundered their bodies and souls. Just very shameful that this ignorant man has no shame.

  9. Guest says

    March 7, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    Moral issues aside, does anyone know a girl who menstruated at age 9? Or even showed any signs of puberty at that age? Between 12-15 was more usual for my generation, and even then we weren’t fully grown and mentally and physically ready for childbirth and motherhood. How can these early puberty pregnancies result in anything but underweight babies and very unhealthy or dead mothers?

    • maghan says

      March 7, 2016 at 6:47 pm

      Muhammad was a vile and degenerate sex pervert who was cunning enough to justify his disgusting and criminal behavior by always fooling his naive and gullible followers with “Allah wills it”. He could murder a man then “marry”(rape) the dead man’s wife immediately afterwards and say his vile acts were “pleasing to Allah”.

      • linnte says

        March 7, 2016 at 8:23 pm

        I know a girl who began her menses at nine. Me. But I can tell you I was no more prepared to be a mother, wife or girlfriend to a boy for that matter! I had never even SEEN a penis, let alone imagine a man molesting me! These babies who are given in marriage at this age have their childhood taken away from them in a way that no child should. THIS SO IN FLAMES ME!!

        • Carolyne says

          March 8, 2016 at 1:47 pm

          And just remember that most likely earlier in their lives, these little girls were sexually mutilated with a rusty razor or broken glass often by their own mothers The most basic human emotion, protecting ones children, seems to be completely missing in Muslims. At least as far as girls go.

  10. davej says

    March 7, 2016 at 3:39 pm

    “Islam is a complete way of life”

    Yes, it certainly is and that is why its the favorite “religion” among sexual perverts, molesters, rapists, criminals and thugs.

    So there will be “no apologies” from them or their “scholars”.

    Its a death and sex cult and that’s all it is.

  11. Darryl Kerney says

    March 7, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    “Islam teaches justice and fairness. The religion or tribe of the parties involved does not matter. ”

    what a liar !!!
    islam totally has different rules for treating fellow muslims as opposed to Unbelievers !
    how many times does the quran say so ?
    i’m sure our experts here can rattle of quite a few without even picking up the vile book.
    i can think of several i’ve heard Robert and others talk about….

  12. mortimer says

    March 7, 2016 at 6:26 pm

    “Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has no barrier in beheading and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has no barrier in crucifixion and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has no barrier to stoning and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has no barrier to FGM and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has barrier in ethnic cleansing and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has barrier in enslaving kafirs and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has no barrier in censorship and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has no barrier in subjugating kafirs and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”
    “Islam has no barrier in subverting freedom and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”

    What? We’re a human rights outfit? Oh, sure we are! Well, human rights are for Muslim males only…that’s what we mean.

  13. sidney penny says

    March 7, 2016 at 6:55 pm

    Robert Spencer

    You set out the facts quite well.

    The question is from an infidel’s point of view what is the solution?

    What should Infidels do, say, and read?

    and if you were a Muslim what would you do?

  14. Angemon says

    March 7, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    As a religion, non-Muslims will have to take Muslims as they are, not as they want them to be. Neither Muslims nor their religion should be judged according to other standards. There will never be any inter-religious understanding so long as non-Muslims continue to measure Muslims and their way of life by Christian, Buddhist or Confucianist yardsticks.

    There you have it: if you don’t let them do what they want as they want there can be no “inter-religious understanding”. Better start saving up for the jizyah – you know, in the spirit of “inter-religious understanding”…

  15. Lee says

    March 7, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    Just a survey here: Mr Trump says he would remain neutral between Israel and Palestine/Syria/Iran/ISIL et al. Does this man’s views, representing Islam at large, leave room for neutrality? I don’t know that I’d put US boots on the ground, but there would be no though if neutrality. Arm Israel to the teeth. My opinion, what’s yours?

    • linnte says

      March 7, 2016 at 8:57 pm

      No one here likes MY opinion! Hahahaha! I say just get the hell out of the Middle East, leave Israel to its own devices. Stop sending Israel 4.5 BILLION dollars a year in welfare money! Every man for himself. Every country for themselves! No more money or equipment sent to the Middle East. No more Army bases in every country- what, we have 130 or more army bases around the world? Bring our soldiers home and get this country back on her feet! Sending actual FOOD to countries in need is great- clothing and basic staples good too. The problem with America policing the world is just like an over protective mother! If we don’t allow the children to fall on their butts or find out the hard way, they become totally dependant on us. It is wrong and debilitating to anyone! Who here thinks Welfare is better than work? No one! But that is what we are doing all over the world. And that situation, meaning dependence, is what will bring in the One World Government.

      • Lee says

        March 7, 2016 at 9:02 pm

        Ok, so you would abandon the 7MM people of Israel to the surrounding 120MM Islamists who are hell bent on killing every last Jew and/or Christian who inhabits the state of Israel? Wow that’s pretty stark. I would agree stop giving the Arab states money. Just, when your kids are being bullied 200 to 1, don’t call the neighbors for help. The kids can work it out.

        • linnte says

          March 8, 2016 at 2:00 am

          Yes, I would leave Israel to fend for itself. It is their choice to be there amongst raging Islamic nutcases! And yes, when my kids were fighting with the neighbor kids, I let them work it out. It was mutually agreed with the neighbor parents. But, you see, only once did my son act like the agressor only to loose. He learned to not do it again ! Natural consequences of an action is critical for growth!! If Israel wants to be a country in that hell hole, it is their choice. I would much rather the USA let in 77million Israelis than one Muslim! Let them come here! Either that or make Israel another State of the US. If we try to control the world we can only be as strong as our weakest link, which means, our country will fail if we don’t become self centered. And besides, it is only Palestine that Israel is fighting. I wonder why IS doesn’t attack them?

        • Lee says

          March 8, 2016 at 12:09 pm

          Sorry, Linnte, you misunderstood. There are 8.2MM population in Israel( you said 77MM, which is more than the population of Germany). Around 200MM population of Islamics in surrounding Islamic states. So your kids would not be fighting one or two other kids. It would be your two against 25, those 25 having the objective not to hit your kids, but to kill them. It would only be by the interference of Gabriel that your kids survive. If you’re ok with the obliteration of 8 million people, because they dare to live, pity you. Dachau must feel pretty good to you.

        • linnte says

          March 8, 2016 at 1:38 pm

          So the life of Jews is more precious than the life of any other people? Bullshit! If the damn Muslims weren’t so dead set on ruling the world would you still want them dead? They are, after all, human. If life now was peachy keen and everybody was lovely dovey with each other, you betcha! We could interfere and intervene all we wanted. But then that wouldn’t be necessary would it? So who gets to play God, and decide which people/country to support? Why not focus on the Nigerian Christians and support Nigeria’s Government to save those people? Morroco could use 4.5BILLION dollars a year too! Geeze, even Mexico could and WELL HELL! Let’s just stop being America and give all our tax dollars to every damn country in the world! Let’s let every one move here if they want and oh how wonderful it would be if my grandkids were all mixed race and not pure nasty white!

          I got news for ya buddy. If we stopped giving Israel welfare money, they would turn on us in a heartbeat. They, like the “refugees” would be demanding what THEY think we OWE them! Take your blinders off. Look at the picture from a different angle than the one that has been painted for you all these years. Step aside and view it from the perspective of another country. Do you know the reason (besides Islamic doctrine) that the Arabs hate us so badly? It’s because they see the disparity between the USA giving Israel money yet allowing poverty to reign in their countries.

          If the USA doesn’t stop being the world police, we are on the fast track to our own demise. Nearly HALF of our country is on food stamps! People live from paycheck to paycheck and one severe illness of the breadwinner would put them out on the street. It is NOT the wealthy 1% who are giving away Billions, it’s the taxpayer! You! Me! My son’s!

          It doesn’t matter how many against the few. What matters is how the fight is won. Your analogy doesn’t hold water, because the bigger picture(world wide) is what counts. And consequences is the same, no matter the numbers. I slam my fist into a brick wall, it hurts. 200 people slam their fists into the brick wall, it still hurts. Supporting Israel costs each and every struggling American, every day for YEARS since our welfare payments began- 1946? That’s a lotta schamoles!

          Bottom line is their CHOICE to stay there. Stupid choice! And I need to pay for that choice? Bullshit!

      • Marissa A says

        March 8, 2016 at 8:00 am

        That is pure lunacy. Isolationist attitudes only allow abhorrent ideologies to grow in power. Ultimately, that power comes to our shores. We were lucky that our isolationist policies didn’t destroy us during WW2. We ignored Afganistan and look what happened. While we do not have to police every region, we must respond and contain those that represent a real threat.. As to Israel, they have proven their worth time and time again. Even though you suggest they could all move to the US, I still believe it is in the world’s best interest to support their choice to stay. Their presence in the middle-east helps us maintain intelligence and checks the growth. If Merkel and others had listened to Israel, they would not have the crisis in Europe.

        • linnte says

          March 8, 2016 at 1:01 pm

          Marissa, it is the lack of borders that has allowed Europe to be invaded by millions of Islamic men- an army! Isolationist is a Politically correct way of saying One World Government should be in power. People argue that the USA is a Christian nation, yet are gung ho about bombing and killing millions of innocents when oil and poppies are threatened. We have countries for a reason, and that reason is to protect our way of existence. Germany is now a “multicultural” Haven of terrified white people and pernicious Islam doctrine spreading Arabs. Their culture will be lost soon, with the next generation. Gone. Britain too. Celtic will be a forgotten word and Tutonic has already fallen to the past out of memory.

          When a countries borders are not respected either IN or OUT, that country ceases to exist. And that truth involves Government too. When Government focusses its attention on other places besides its own people it ceases to be the government of the people!!

          The Jews are grown up human beings! It is their CHOICE to be there. What part of “I am going to live in the city of Fukushima even though it is dangerous and will definitely cause my demise” don’t you understand? Same for the Jews. They stay there because God gave them this land? REALLY REALLY? So, why isn’t God taking care of them? The USA is, to the tune of 4.5 BILLION American dollars a year. When we don’t allow any one country to experience the consequences of their choices, the consequence becomes ours to bear. OURS! I do not want that burdon! Most Americans have no clue we are supporting Israel to this degree.

          I used to think that the North and South American continents should be one country. I used to think that the world should be one open world. John Lennons song “Imagine” comes to mind. And it could be a reality, BUT Islam is in the way. Until Islam is gone, vanished, nonexistent the world MUST have borders and each Country for itself. As long as USA pours our resources into places that do not benefit its people we will remain weak and vulnerable.

  16. citycat says

    March 7, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    It’s all misogyny. Mankind is sick. God is a tribal mind control tool.
    “all men are dogs” and want sex with all women, and even worse, some with boys.
    This is a force to control.
    If a Muslim was disinclined to misogyny then his Islam would crush his humanity.
    Islam makes Muslims.
    Why? The gonads go marching on?
    The magicians of Islam need soul energy to feed the Vampire?
    Mankind is barely out of the savage?
    F— knows.

  17. citycat says

    March 8, 2016 at 1:30 am

    What a nasty piece of work is that Allah making boys to be eternally abused, not to mention the 72
    What a nasty mind to come up with that story.

    • linnte says

      March 8, 2016 at 2:05 am

      And those 72 aren’t even human! They are virgjns made by Allah with dark shiny eyes. It doesn’t say if women get laid does it? And what about those poor Jinn? Those ethreal beings made of fire by Allah? Sheesh!

  18. David says

    March 8, 2016 at 6:05 am

    I’m sorry. I NEVER even see those words: “the prophet”, that always appear next to “Mo’s” name.
    My brain ALWAYS converts it to: “the DESERT PSYCHOPATH”.
    I just don’t even hear it when it’s said aloud by the evening Network news reader either. I am an Educated North American. I’ve always lived in this enlightened and Civilized Nation. The ravings of backward, savage LUNATICS hold no sway over my mind!
    I guess I must be a member of a minute and tiny minority. It seems that even our, so called, Washington ELITES are all willing to bow before these insane religious fanatics!

  19. vcragain says

    March 8, 2016 at 7:38 am

    “a divine blessing,” – yep this proves my feelings that his cult has an absolute pre-occupation with their
    d**ks ! Revolting, disgusting, Satanic if anything ever was ! Islam is a perversion of the soul and the females in this cult should rise up and remove themselves from it to allow themselves to establish a healthier society- it is quite obvious the men will NOT help with that !

  20. torino390 says

    March 8, 2016 at 9:08 am

    “It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old”

    how thoughtful of him to wait until she was nine. such compassion.

    and as for this ‘professor’ – give me five minutes with the piece of shit.

    I long for the day people finally realise Islam and the west are NOT compatible, and Islam is cast out of any civilised country and returned to the dessert where it belongs. (well, it doesn’t actually ‘belong’ anywhere)

  21. ICH says

    March 8, 2016 at 10:51 am

    “Christians should do something about gay marriages inside churches”

    Werent we just told Islam is marrying gays?
    And its the Christians who are bigots?

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4 Responses to Muslim professor: “Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this”, from Jihad Watch by Robert Spencer

  1. θ says:

    Moslems do not get irritated or agitated to have the example of Aisha’s post-pubescent marriage with betrothal for 3 years, because it was not paedophilia. By definition, paedophilia is a sexual perversion of getting attracted to the pre-pubescent girl. There’s no crime for a normal man to marry a normal post-pubescent woman as she is not a child anymore. There’s no law in this world that prohibits the older man or younger man to marry the post-pubescent woman.

    However, Islam allows the society to decide when the age of marriage begins by commanding a societal duty to conduct “maturity test” of the teens, and forbidding underage teens to take the wealth, such as dowry (Q.4, v.5-6). which are the Madinan verses.
    The maturity test is certainly the reason why Prophet Muhammad married his daughter Fatimah when she is mature enough, that is 19 y.o. to 21 y.o. Ali in Madinah, and he refused all previous proposals of other Moslems to marry his daughter.

    Marriageable age is not fixed in Secularism. If we compare to the standard of Mississippi law – in which the marrital age is 21 – we can falsely judge that almost all Americans and Europeans must have been paedophiles. On other hand, in Massachusetts’ law, any 12 y.o. American girl can marry with the parent consent.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/table_marriage
    Minimum age for common-law marriage determined to be 12; legislature instituted minimum age of 18 for marriages begun on or after September 1, 2006
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
    The age of marriage in the United States varies by state, but is generally 18. There are, however, two exceptions—Nebraska (19) and Mississippi (21). Most states, however, allow minors below 18 to marry (generally they have to be at least 16 but sometimes lower) with parental and/or judicial consent. Some states allow female minors below 18 to marry without parental or judicial consent, if she is pregnant.

    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammad_Was_Not_A_Pedophile
    Point 1
    Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) married Hazrat ayesha(may Allah be pleased with her) at the age of 6 but consumed his marriage at the age of 9.[Bukhari] Would a pedophile wait for three years when the parents are ready to offer their daughter to him?
    Some critics say this is because he did not have money, mean etc. But they missed a point, that is, it happened in that time when Ayesha(ra) was 9. As Ayesha(ra) reached puberty, his father said to the prophet to take her to his house. In this context prophet said this. According to principle of pedophile no pedophile will do such act when everything is in his side.
    Point 2
    Ayesha (ra) said in Tirmidhi hadith, that She never saw the private part’s of Muhammmad(sm) and nor Muhammad did saw her.
    ‘Aayeshah Radiyallahu ‘Anha reports: (because of the excessive modesty of Sayyidina Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘Alayhi Wasallam) “I did not have the courage to see the private parts of Rasulullah, or that I never saw the private parts of Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘Alayhi Wasallam”.Tirmidhi 342:2
    So will a pedophile marry and be restrained from having sex?
    Question arises so why Prophet Muhammad(sm) married her? It was a divine wisdom from Allah. The whole muslim world consider Ayesha(ra) as Mother of the believer. She lived for more than 16 years after the death of Muhammad(sm). Ayesha(ra) had excellent memory. She was a Scholar of the scholars. She delivered thousands of hadith in her whole life. Without her knowledge we would not be able to know thousands of rules and regulation, especially for the women. She is a role model in Islam for all the women.
    Point 3
    All who claiming that Ayesha(ra) was pre-pubescent don’t they know that even a girl of age 9 can reach puberty?
    To check you have to just go on the internet and see. There are many instances that many 9 year old girls reached puberty at this particular age.
    Sayyidah Aisha said: ‘When a girl is nine years old, she is a woman (meaning, she has attained puberty).’Tirmidhi 1109
    Science tells us that the age of puberty keeps on changing depending upon diet, surrounding, and weather. For example in America the age of puberty is much earlier as compared to the India and Pakistan. Today science also tells us that closer to the equator the more chances of puberty is much more earlier. A recent case happened where a girl in Bombay in India who has just reached 9 she has got puberty, she has got menstrual cycle. And that thing is there in the family; even the mother had the same thing. It may be rare. So it is very much possible that some women can reach puberty at the age of 9. The same thing with Hazrat Ayesha(ra), she reached puberty at an early age.
    Point 4
    Another group say that Ayesha(ra) played with dolls?
    That’s right. But you need to hear that her husband was a Prophet. So he had to act on that way, with love, affection and kindness. Prophet gave her liberty as she was very young. Do they want to say that, a pubescent girl does not play? I ask is it not possible that a woman is eager to play and pass time in joy? Yes, doll is permitted for children but Prophet Muhammad(Sm) was not harsh. He was very affectionate that he permitted her beloved wife Ayesha(ra) to play with dolls.
    Point 5
    In her whole life Hazrat Ayesha(ra) never said any discouraging thing about her husband Muhammad(sm). In fact she herself said that,”Who was more fortunate and loving than me among the wives of Huzur(Muhammad(sm))?”
    Will a pedophile be worthy of such highness of character?
    Their relation is an example of how should one treat with young women. Their relation is the most beautiful relation with love, affection that everyone wishes to have in the history of human. All who are all saying without knowledge and filled with misinformation. Please study Islam with open mind. Islam is for all, not only for the Arabs and Muslims.

    Moreover, on the religion comparison, there’s no sin of pedophilia in the Bible. Secularism is not a religion either. In Catholic law of the marriageable age, a 14 y.o. woman can marry. In Judaism, the father can arrange marriage for 3 y.o. daughter.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impediment_(canon_law)
    Age. If the man is under 16 years of age, or the woman is under 14 years of age, then their marriage is invalid. This is an ecclesiastical impediment, and so does not apply to a marriage between two non-Catholics. However, note that in a marriage between a Catholic and a non-Catholic, the age limitation applies to the non-Catholic party as well. Each national episcopal conference has the authority to set a higher minimum age as a prohibitive impediment.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_marriage
    A ketannah (literally meaning “little [one]”) was any girl between the age of 3 years and that of 12 years plus one day;[78] she was subject to her father’s authority and he could arrange a marriage for her without her agreement.[78] However, after reaching the age of maturity, she would have to agree to the marriage to be considered as married. If the father was dead or missing, the brothers of the ketannah, collectively, had the right to arrange a marriage for her, as had her mother.[78] In these situations, a ketannah would always have the right to annul her marriage even if it was the first.[79]

    In fact, paedophilia is forbidden in Islam, hence it is sin.
    Here is the logic of post-pubescent marriage in Islam:
    (i) A wife has to get a dowry or wealth as the marital obligation (Q.4, v.24).
    (ii) Islam forbids the underage girl from getting the wealth, such as dowry (Q.4, v.5).
    (iii) Islam requires a maturity test for the woman’s readiness and post-pubescence, that is the evidence of changes of her body, (Q.4, v.6).
    (iv) Hence, Islam forbids marriage of the underage girl.

    Aisha and Mary are typical houris of Paradise. Each male Moslem would marry at least two post-pubescent women whose body turns very attractive biologically.
    Aisha still calls herself “little girl” (Jariyah) after 10 years in Medina, even when she performed ‘Umra in Mekka.
    Muslim, Book 7, Hadith 2773.
    She (Aisha) said: I was very young woman [Jariyah] and I well remember that I dozed off and my face touched the hind part of the haudaj (camel litter) till we came to Tan’im, and entered into the state of Ihram in lieu of Umra (which I for the time being abandoned) and which the people had performed.

    In the Tanach, there’s no sin in marrying a woman after her puberty, as Jehovah infers in Ezek 16:7-9.
    Ezek 16
    7 Thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.

  2. θ says:

    Moslems do not get irritated or agitated to have the example of Aisha’s post-pubescent marriage with betrothal for 3 years, because it is definitely conclusive that it was not paedophilia. By definition, paedophilia is a sexual perversion of getting attracted to the pre-pubescent girl. There’s no crime for a normal man to marry a normal post-pubescent woman as she is not a child anymore. There’s no law in this world that prohibits the older man or younger man to marry the post-pubescent woman.

    However, Islam allows the society to decide when the age of marriage begins by commanding a societal duty to conduct “maturity test” of the teens, and forbidding underage teens to take the wealth, such as dowry (Q.4, v.5-6). which are the Madinan verses.
    The maturity test is certainly the reason why Prophet Muhammad married his daughter Fatimah when she is mature enough, that is 19 y.o. to 21 y.o. Ali in Madinah, and he refused all previous proposals of other Moslems to marry his daughter.

    Marriageable age is not fixed in Secularism. If we compare to the standard of Mississippi law – in which the marrital age is 21 – we can falsely judge that almost all Americans and Europeans must have been paedophiles. On other hand, in Massachusetts’ law, any 12 y.o. American girl can marry with the parent consent.
    //www.law.cornell.edu/wex/table_marriage
    Minimum age for common-law marriage determined to be 12; legislature instituted minimum age of 18 for marriages begun on or after September 1, 2006
    //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_the_United_States
    The age of marriage in the United States varies by state, but is generally 18. There are, however, two exceptions—Nebraska (19) and Mississippi (21). Most states, however, allow minors below 18 to marry (generally they have to be at least 16 but sometimes lower) with parental and/or judicial consent. Some states allow female minors below 18 to marry without parental or judicial consent, if she is pregnant.

    //wikiislam.net/wiki/Muhammad_Was_Not_A_Pedophile
    Point 1
    Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) married Hazrat ayesha(may Allah be pleased with her) at the age of 6 but consumed his marriage at the age of 9.[Bukhari] Would a pedophile wait for three years when the parents are ready to offer their daughter to him?
    Some critics say this is because he did not have money, mean etc. But they missed a point, that is, it happened in that time when Ayesha(ra) was 9. As Ayesha(ra) reached puberty, his father said to the prophet to take her to his house. In this context prophet said this. According to principle of pedophile no pedophile will do such act when everything is in his side.
    Point 2
    Ayesha (ra) said in Tirmidhi hadith, that She never saw the private part’s of Muhammmad(sm) and nor Muhammad did saw her.
    ‘Aayeshah Radiyallahu ‘Anha reports: (because of the excessive modesty of Sayyidina Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘Alayhi Wasallam) “I did not have the courage to see the private parts of Rasulullah, or that I never saw the private parts of Rasulullah Sallallahu ‘Alayhi Wasallam”.Tirmidhi 342:2
    So will a pedophile marry and be restrained from having sex?
    Question arises so why Prophet Muhammad(sm) married her? It was a divine wisdom from Allah. The whole muslim world consider Ayesha(ra) as Mother of the believer. She lived for more than 16 years after the death of Muhammad(sm). Ayesha(ra) had excellent memory. She was a Scholar of the scholars. She delivered thousands of hadith in her whole life. Without her knowledge we would not be able to know thousands of rules and regulation, especially for the women. She is a role model in Islam for all the women.
    Point 3
    All who claiming that Ayesha(ra) was pre-pubescent don’t they know that even a girl of age 9 can reach puberty?
    To check you have to just go on the internet and see. There are many instances that many 9 year old girls reached puberty at this particular age.
    Sayyidah Aisha said: ‘When a girl is nine years old, she is a woman (meaning, she has attained puberty).’Tirmidhi 1109
    Science tells us that the age of puberty keeps on changing depending upon diet, surrounding, and weather. For example in America the age of puberty is much earlier as compared to the India and Pakistan. Today science also tells us that closer to the equator the more chances of puberty is much more earlier. A recent case happened where a girl in Bombay in India who has just reached 9 she has got puberty, she has got menstrual cycle. And that thing is there in the family; even the mother had the same thing. It may be rare. So it is very much possible that some women can reach puberty at the age of 9. The same thing with Hazrat Ayesha(ra), she reached puberty at an early age.
    Point 4
    Another group say that Ayesha(ra) played with dolls?
    That’s right. But you need to hear that her husband was a Prophet. So he had to act on that way, with love, affection and kindness. Prophet gave her liberty as she was very young. Do they want to say that, a pubescent girl does not play? I ask is it not possible that a woman is eager to play and pass time in joy? Yes, doll is permitted for children but Prophet Muhammad(Sm) was not harsh. He was very affectionate that he permitted her beloved wife Ayesha(ra) to play with dolls.
    Point 5
    In her whole life Hazrat Ayesha(ra) never said any discouraging thing about her husband Muhammad(sm). In fact she herself said that,”Who was more fortunate and loving than me among the wives of Huzur(Muhammad(sm))?”
    Will a pedophile be worthy of such highness of character?
    Their relation is an example of how should one treat with young women. Their relation is the most beautiful relation with love, affection that everyone wishes to have in the history of human. All who are all saying without knowledge and filled with misinformation. Please study Islam with open mind. Islam is for all, not only for the Arabs and Muslims.

    Moreover, on the religion comparison, there’s no sin of pedophilia in the Bible. Secularism is not a religion either. In Catholic law of the marriageable age, a 14 y.o. woman can marry. In Judaism, the father can arrange marriage for 3 y.o. daughter.
    //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impediment_(canon_law)
    Age. If the man is under 16 years of age, or the woman is under 14 years of age, then their marriage is invalid. This is an ecclesiastical impediment, and so does not apply to a marriage between two non-Catholics. However, note that in a marriage between a Catholic and a non-Catholic, the age limitation applies to the non-Catholic party as well. Each national episcopal conference has the authority to set a higher minimum age as a prohibitive impediment.

    //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_marriage
    A ketannah (literally meaning “little [one]”) was any girl between the age of 3 years and that of 12 years plus one day;[78] she was subject to her father’s authority and he could arrange a marriage for her without her agreement.[78] However, after reaching the age of maturity, she would have to agree to the marriage to be considered as married. If the father was dead or missing, the brothers of the ketannah, collectively, had the right to arrange a marriage for her, as had her mother.[78] In these situations, a ketannah would always have the right to annul her marriage even if it was the first.[79]

    In fact, paedophilia is forbidden in Islam, hence it is sin.
    Here is the logic of post-pubescent marriage in Islam:
    (i) A wife has to get a dowry or wealth as the marital obligation (Q.4, v.24).
    (ii) Islam forbids the underage girl from getting the wealth, such as dowry (Q.4, v.5).
    (iii) Islam requires a maturity test for the woman’s readiness and post-pubescence, that is the evidence of changes of her body, (Q.4, v.6).
    (iv) Hence, Islam forbids marriage of the underage girl.

    Aisha and Mary are typical houris of Paradise. Each male Moslem would marry at least two post-pubescent women whose body turns very attractive biologically.
    Aisha still calls herself “little girl” (Jariyah) after 10 years in Medina, even when she performed ‘Umra in Mekka.
    Muslim, Book 7, Hadith 2773.
    She (Aisha) said: I was very young woman [Jariyah] and I well remember that I dozed off and my face touched the hind part of the haudaj (camel litter) till we came to Tan’im, and entered into the state of Ihram in lieu of Umra (which I for the time being abandoned) and which the people had performed.

    In the Tanach, there’s no sin in marrying a woman after her puberty, as Jehovah infers in Ezek 16:7-9.
    Ezek 16
    7 Thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.

  3. θ says:

    Apart from the ceremonial wedding and strict Monogamy, the Bible has no technical regulation whatsoever in marriage:
    (i) There’s no age-barrier.
    (ii) There’s no sin to have sex during the menses.
    (iii) There’s no prohibition of anal with wife.
    (iv) There’s no male and female purification after sex.
    (v) There’s no difference between prepubescence and post-pubescence.
    (vi) There’s no dowry.
    (vii) There’s no Iddah (Waiting period).

  4. Anonymous says:

    On the issue of paeophilia, the opinion of Modern Secularists is as unscriptural as the older traditions of the religious scholars.

    Nevertheless, as the scripture, the Bible itself is silent on paedophilia, there’s no minimum age for marriage, and importantly – very controversial actually – there’s no sin or condemnation for the pedophiles.

    In Judaism there’s a concept of Ketannah in which the underage marriage (of Rebecca and Abishag) is permitted.
    In the Catholicism there’s a concept of the Marriageable age (of 12 years old Mary).

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