7. Does the spirit come into you after or during baptism only? Questions from gilchrist pc mendross

7. Does the spirit come into you after or during baptism only?

I reply,

The spirit regenerates us to enable us to believe, repent and come to faith in Christ. Baptism is afterwards.

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3 Responses to 7. Does the spirit come into you after or during baptism only? Questions from gilchrist pc mendross

  1. gilchrist pc mendross says:

    You don’t even need to be baptized by anybody for the spirit to come into you. That is in the Bible. Look it up.

  2. θ says:

    John the Baptist prophesies himself as Messiah?
    Mk 1:8
    I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
    Acts.11
    16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

    Fact: John actually baptised Jesus with the Holy Spirit. Is John Messiah?
    Lk 3
    21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

    Similarity:
    Jn 20:22
    And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
    Acts 8
    16 For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Baptism according to Paul means:
    (i) Final death of the old corrupt soul as well as the end of the curse of Law.
    (ii) Union in to one new body.
    (iii) Internalising the name of baptiser in to the baptised one.
    (iv) Pre-condition before washing away the sins and calling on the name.

    Final death of the old corrupt soul.
    Rom 6
    3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
    Rom 7:4
    Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law, by the body of Christ;

    Union in to one new body.
    1Cor 12:13
    For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many.

    Internalising the name of baptiser in to the baptised one.
    Gal 3
    27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
    1Cor 1:15
    Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
    Acts 19:3
    And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.

    Pre-condition before washing away the sins and calling on the name.
    Acts 22:16
    And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

    Paul rejects the baptism per se. By preaching the Gospel he is bound by a duty to baptise.
    Paul says he is not sent with a limited scope to baptise per se, but generally to preach the Gospel wherein the greater rite of baptism itself is incumbent and commanded upon every preachers to do. Hence, in the context, Paul actually concurs that he is sent to baptise a greater baptism (including upon household and infants) according to what Gospel requires him to do.
    1Cor 1:17
    For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:
    Acts 16:15
    And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying,

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