Turning the Tables Pt. 4a, a post by Sam Shamoun

We now come to the fourth part in our series where we turn the very objections raised by those who oppose the Christian worldview against them. In this particular section, we are going to tackle an argument, which both Jehovah’s Witnesses (JWs) and Muslims use to undermine the absolute Deity of Christ.

OBJECTION

According to the Holy Bible, Jesus was exalted to sit enthroned at God’s right hand as Lord over creation, and was even given the name which is above all names (cf. Acts 2:33-36; 5:31; Ephesians 1:19-23; Philippians 2:9-11). This shows that Jesus cannot be God since, if he were, then he would have already been exalted above the entire creation as Lord, and therefore wouldn’t need someone else to grant him this status.

RESPONSE

What makes this rather ironic is that these texts prove quite damaging to the beliefs of these anti-Trinitarian groups since they actually establish Christ’s essential Godhood!

Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; he seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool. Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.” Acts 2:29-36

Here the blessed Apostle Peter cites the following passage,

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” Psalm 110:1

In his sermon to the Jews on the day of Pentecost in order to establish that even David knew, believed and worshiped Jesus the Messiah as his exalted Lord since the Holy Spirit had already revealed all these truths to him. In the words of the Lord Jesus himself:

And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David? For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.” Mark 12:35-37

The Apostle also proclaimed that not only was it Jesus that shed forth the Holy Spirit upon his followers, but that he is also the One who grants repentance and forgiveness of sins to all those who would turn to him and believe in his name:

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.” Acts 2:37-40

Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.” Acts 3:26

God exalted this Man to His right hand to be a Ruler and a Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.” Acts 5:31 Modern English Version (MEV)

And elsewhere in the NT, Peter noted that Jesus’ enthronement at God’s right hand meant that the entire creation was now in total subjection to his sovereign control:

The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.” 1 Peter 3:21-22

Peter wasn’t the only one to make such an affirmation. The Apostle Paul preached that Christ has been exalted above every power and name in existence, both in this age and in the one to come, since he now possesses the name which is above all else. This blessed servant further proclaimed that every creature is expected to worship the risen Lord as a result of Jesus’ exalted status over them:

And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, FAR ABOVE ALL principality, and power, and might, and dominion, AND EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.” Ephesians 1:19-23

Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is ABOVE EVERY NAME: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians 2:9-11

With the foregoing in perspective we can now proceed to the second part of our discussion.

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13 Responses to Turning the Tables Pt. 4a, a post by Sam Shamoun

  1. Anonymous says:

    Name Jehovah is hallowed in prayers so his name is not below the name of Jesus.
    One of Names of Jehovah is Almighty God, Pantekratos, above all sons and children.
    2Cor 6:18
    And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

  2. Sam Shamoun says:

    Anonymous, you see all the brain damage caused by toking the pipe for too long? WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT JEHOVAH’S NAME BEING BELOW JESUS’ NAME? The whole point here is to show THAT JESUS POSSESSES THE NAME JEHOVAH AS WELL! No wonder you chose the cowardly way out by remaining anonymous since you even realize how stupid your points are which is why you don’t want people to know the man behind such stupidity.

    Like I said, go somewhere and play your silly games since we don’t have time to waste on your nonsense.

  3. Anonymous says:

    When did he get the name “Jehovah”?
    Did you know the Son does not have name in Heb. 1:1-14 till Heb. 2:9?
    There are many Hebrew men named with “Jehovah”, name “Jesus” is common from the time of Moses and Maccabees.
    Heb 2:9
    But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

    Also, who is the name of Holy Ghost by the way?

  4. Sam Shamoun says:

    Anonymous, stop playing your silly and stupid games here. We are not talking about thephoric or theophorus names where Jehovah forms part of a person’s name to indicate the God worshiped by the person thus named, or a characteristic of that God, e.g., EliYAHU = My God is Jehovah etc.

    WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE BEING CALLED JEHOVAH. I have already proven throughout my articles that Jesus is called and identified as Jehovah, so I won’t waste time on a Bible perverter and deceiver such as yourself. Time for you to crawl back under the rock you came out from.

  5. Anonymous says:

    Jehovah was not having insufficient knowledge of the Hour, hence how is Jesus him?
    Jehovah is called God of gods, where is Jesus called so?
    Deut 10
    17For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

  6. madmanna says:

    If the Father knows and the Son doesn’t know that is between them. They are still divine. It is not a criteria for being God. This is just an artificial, abstract and man-made criteria that is the product of the mind of a sinful creature who has rebelled against God’s revelation of himself. You are wasting your time with this worn-out argument.

  7. Anonymous says:

    The reason why the Son is lacking of knowledge of hour is because he is not the God who makes all things by his hands.
    The Son, according to Arius, was created ποιήσαντι by the God.
    Heb 3
    2Who was faithful to him that made him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.
    πιστὸν ὄντα τῷ ποιήσαντι αὐτὸν ὡς καὶ Μωυσῆς ἐν ὅλῳ τῷ οἴκῳ αὐτοῦ.
    Look http://biblehub.com/greek/poie_santi_4160.htm

  8. madmanna says:

    “The reason why the Son is lacking of knowledge of hour is because he is not the God who makes all things by his hands.”

    No it’s not the reason. The reason is they are different persons. Different persons have different knowledge. All persons have knowledge that is unique to them individually.

  9. Anonymous says:

    The God is not lacking of what (knowledge of Hour, name of Holy Ghost, et cetera) the Son lacks of.
    The Son, Holy Ghost, Angels and humans are lacking the knowledge of hour, hence they are not the God.
    By the way where is the name of Holy Ghost in the Scriptures?

  10. madmanna says:

    Correction: “The Son, Holy Ghost, Angels and humans are lacking the knowledge of hour, hence they are not the God the Father”.

  11. Anonymous says:

    Ignorance of Hours is invalidating the divinity of Son, Holy Ghost, Angels and humans
    Rom 11
    33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
    Isa 40
    28Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

    Once again, another question If there are three distinct persons, where in the Scripture is the name of Holy Ghost?

  12. madmanna says:

    “Rom 11
    33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
    Isa 40
    28Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.”

    So what. What does that prove? Don’t be so lazy and construct an argument please.

  13. Anonymous says:

    God is unique in the only sense that there is nothing like Him in the universe. What He knows cannot be conceived by the other’s mind because the depth of His mind fails everyone. Rom 11 30 is dismissing the infinity of mind of the Son, hence he is not the Lord God, and Isaiah 40:28 invalidating his strength to seek out the God’s knowledge, hence the Son is not the Lord God.

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