God the Father is also referred to as Lord, the same as Jesus, in the NT

Acts 4 v 26:

The kings of the earth stood up and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord ( Father ), and against his Christ.

Obviously the same Lord is referred to here as in the other texts scattered throughout Acts but in this place it can only mean the Father. For the disciples to call Jesus the same Lord is proof that they also understood him to be God:

v 24 from the same chapter in Acts:

And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is.

25 Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things?

26 The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ.

27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, 28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. 29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word, 30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus. 31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.

Unitarians of all flavours are “kicking against the pricks.”

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How Could God Punish Jesus for the Sins of Others? A post by David Wood of Answering Muslims

In Mark 10:45, Jesus declares: “The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” He adds in John 10:14-18:

“I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me—just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

His disciple John later said that “he appeared so that he might take away our sins” (1 John 3:5).

Jesus’ sacrificial death gives rise to one of the most common Muslim objections to Christianity: Wouldn’t it be unfair or unjust for God to punish Jesus for the sins of others? However, if Muslims think that this is a good objection, they apparently haven’t read their own sources.

Let’s take a closer look at this objection.

I. NO BEARER OF BURDEN SHALL BEAR ANOTHER’S BURDEN

Qur’an 6:164—Say, “Shall I seek a Lord, other than Allah while He is the Lord of all things?” And no soul earns evil but only against itself; nor does any bearer of burden bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord will be your return, and He will inform you of that wherein you used to differ.

Qur’an 17:13-15—And We have fastened every man’s deeds to his neck, and on the Day of Resurrection, We shall bring out for him a book which he will find wide open. (It will be said to him): “Read your book. You yourself are sufficient as a reckoner against you this Day.” Whoever goes right, then he goes right only for the benefit of his own self. And whoever goes astray, then he goes astray to his own loss. No one laden with burdens can bear another’s burden. And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).

Qur’an 35:18And no bearer of burdens shall bear another’s burden, and if one heavily laden calls another to (bear) his load, nothing of it will be lifted even though he be near of kin.

Qur’an 39:7—If you disbelieve, then verily, Allah is not in need of you, He likes not disbelief for His slaves. And if you are grateful (by being believers), He is pleased therewith for you. No bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another. Then to your Lord is your return, so He will inform you what you used to do. Verily, He is the All-Knower of that which is in (men’s) breasts.

Qur’an 53:33-42—Have you then seen him who turns his back? And gives a little and (then) withholds. Has he the knowledge of the unseen so that he can see? Or, has he not been informed of what is in the scriptures of Musa? And (of) Ibrahim who fulfilled (the commandments): That no bearer of burden shall bear the burden of another; and that man shall have nothing but what he strives for; and that his striving shall soon be seen; then shall he be rewarded for it with the fullest reward; and that to your Lord is the goal . . . ?

II. SOME WILL BEAR THE BURDENS OF OTHERS

Qur’an 16:22-25—Your God is one God; so (as for) those who do not believe in the hereafter, their hearts are ignorant and they are proud. Truly Allah knows what they hide and what they manifest; surely He does not love the proud. And when it is said to them, what is it that your Lord has revealed? They say: Stories of the ancients; that they may bear their burdens entirely on the day of resurrection and also of the burdens of those whom they lead astray without knowledge; now surely evil is what they bear.

Qur’an 29:12-13—And those who disbelieve say to those who believe: “Follow our way and we will verily bear your sins,” never will they bear anything of their sins. Surely, they are liars. And verily, they shall bear their own loads, and other loads besides their own, and verily, they shall be questioned on the Day of Resurrection about that which they used to fabricate.

III. CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WILL BEAR THE BURDENS OF MUSLIMS

Sahih Muslim 6665—Abu Musa reported that Allah’s Messenger said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.

Sahih Muslim 6666—Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah’s Apostle said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire. Umar b. And al-Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah’s Messenger.

Sahih Muslim 6668—Abu Burda reported Allah’s Messenger as saying: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the Jews and the Christians.

110 Hadith Qudsi #8—Narrated Abu Musa: Allah’s Messenger said: On the Day of Resurrection, my Ummah (nation) will be gathered into three groups. One sort will enter Paradise without rendering an account (of their deeds). Another sort will be reckoned an easy account and admitted into Paradise. Yet another sort will come bearing on their backs heaps of sins like great mountains. Allah will ask the angels though He knows best about them: Who are these people? They will reply: They are humble slaves of yours. He will say: Unload the sins from them and put the same over the Jews and Christians: then let the humble slaves get into Paradise by virtue of My Mercy.

IV. MUHAMMAD HAD A BURDEN OF SIN

Qur’an 40:55—Then have patience (O Muhammad). Lo! the promise of Allah is true. And ask forgiveness of thy sin, and hymn the praise of thy Lord at fall of night and in the early hours.

Qur’an 47:19—So know (O Muhammad) that there is no God save Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy sin and for believing men and believing women. Allah knoweth (both) your place of turmoil and your place of rest.

Qur’an 48:1-2—Lo! We have given thee (O Muhammad) a signal victory, that Allah may forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come, and may perfect His favour unto thee, and may guide thee on a right path . . .

Sahih al-Bukhari 6307—Narrated Abu Hurairah: I heard Allah’s Messenger saying, “By Allah! I seek Allah’s forgiveness and turn to Him in repentance for more than seventy times a day.”

V. JESUS HAD NO BURDEN OF SIN

Qur’an 19:19—He [the angel] said [to Mary]: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son [i.e., Jesus].

Sahih al-Bukhari 3286—Narrated Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said, When any human being is born, Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Isa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), whom Satan tried to touch (but failed), so he touched the placenta-cover (instead).

Hebrews 4:15—For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

1 Peter 2:21-22—To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps. He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.

1 John 3:5—But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.

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The Same God Question (Part 2), by Ralph Sidway from the FacingIslam blog

Allah’s Theological Jihad against Christianity – A Case of Two Extremes

Continued from Part 1, An Epistemological Malady

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The first problem for a Christian who affirms that Muslims worship the same God, is that such a Christian has to contend with the Koran, which Muslims believe to be the unalterable, eternal words of God, revealed to Muhammad alone, which pre-existed in heaven before all eternity.

Allah — in the Koran — explicitly condemns the foundational truths of the Christian Way, calls Christians “blasphemers” and “deluded”, and pronounces curses on Christians (emphasis added):

The similitude of Isa [Jesus] before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”: And he was. (Sura 3:59)

Say not “Trinity”: desist: It will be better for you: For God is One God: Glory be to Him: (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. . . . (Sura 4:173)

In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the Son of Mary. (Sura 5:19)

They do blaspheme who say: “God is Christ the son of Mary . . .” They doblaspheme who say: God is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them (Sura 5:75,78)

Christ the son of Mary was no more than an Apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God doth make His Signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!(Sura 5:78)

The Jews call ‘Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the Son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the Unbelievers of old used to say. God’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! (Sura 9:30)

In fact, they never killed him [Jesus], they never crucified him — they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge; they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him. (Sura 4:157)

Just to recap the above, the Koran — Allah, that is — insists:

  • Jesus is like Adam, mere man created from dust. [1]
  • God is too exalted to have a son.
  • Christians are blasphemers for confessing Jesus Christ as Son of God.
  • Christians are blasphemers for confessing the Holy Trinity.
  • Because Christians are blasphemers, a “grievous penalty” will befall them.
  • Christians are “deluded away from truth” when they confess Jesus Christ as Son of God.
  • Because Christians are blasphemers and deluded away from the truth, “God’s curse be upon them.”

Oh, and furthermore, Allah insists that Jesus was never crucified. [2]

All this condemnation of Christian dogma and calling down curses upon Christians comes forth in supposed direct — word-for-word literal — revelations from the True God. [3]

Now, if Muslims and Christians worship the same God, then Allah = God. Yet Allah explicitly condemns Christian dogma, curses Christians and denies historical fact.

What can this possibly mean? How do we respond to this?

The first response is we need to respect the claims Islam makes about Allah, Muhammad, and the Koran. That is, we need to consider the implications of what Allah reveals to Muhammad through the Koran.

Because it is Allah speaking in and through the Koran, therefore Christian apologists for the Same God position cannot hide behind the relativistic, academic “different conceptions of God” curtain. That is ducking the question. Who is the “man behind the curtain?” Who is the BEING behind the revelation which makes those pronouncements? This is the dilemma of the Same God position. If the Koran is a revealed text, who is the WHO behind the text?

The second problem for a Christian who affirms the Same God position happens to be Jesus’ own words and the New Testament witness, which are quite extreme in their own right.

In juxtaposition to Allah’s condemnation of foundational Christian dogmas, let us first choose an example from the Gospels. I have in mind Jesus’ dialogue with the Jews in John’s Gospel account, in chapter 8. The entire passage is too long to include here, but in summary, Jesus rebukes and challenges the Pharisees and even the Jews who followed him, trying to bring them to faith and repentance:

Jesus said to them… “Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.” (vv 43-47, NKJV)

The discussion gets progressively more heated, with the Jews accusing Jesus of having a demon, and of bearing witness of himself. To which Jesus responds with one of the most incredible statements ever uttered in any language:

Jesus answered, “If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,’ I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”

Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”

Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” (vv. 54-58, NKJV)

The “I AM” statement in Greek, “Ego Eimi”, is the translation of the words by which God revealed Himself to Moses, “God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And he said, “Say this to the people of Israel, I AM has sent me to you” (Ex 3:14). So by making this statement, Jesus was equating himself with the LORD, YHWH,“He Who IS.” [4]

This was the ultimate blasphemy for the Pharisees of Jesus’ day. No wonder, as John recounts, that after Jesus spoke this, “They took up stones to throw at him” (v.59).

Jesus makes this “I AM” statement twenty-four times in John’s Gospel (forty-five, if you count the instances where the emphatic “Ego” is not included but merely implied with the “Eimi”).

Based on these brief examples alone, Christianity and Islam cannot both be from the same source, which is what the Same God Question ultimately boils down to. If we treat each truth claim with respect, that each faith springs from a self-revelation of God, then it is clear the Allah of Islam is directly, and in a specific, vigorous manner, opposed to the revelation from the Christian God. And Jesus’ own emphatic testimony about himself excludes any alternate revelation concerning the nature of God.

Put another way, Allah’s self-revelation through Muhammad reveals him as completely opposed to the Christian God’s self-revelation through the incarnation of Jesus Christ. Much of Allah’s purpose in revealing certain specific verses to Muhammad was clearly to correct (what he saw as) the errors of the Christians. Allah is so vehement in these condemnations of Christian dogma that it amounts to what I term a “Theological Jihad.” 

The implications for Christians are set forth with a holy intensity by the Evangelist John in his epistles. Confessing Jesus Christ is the litmus test for who is of God and who is not. John does not give Christians any “wiggle room” on this point:

Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also… (1 JN 2:22-23)

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. (1 JN 4:1-3)

My purpose in citing these passages is to show the total commitment to Jesus Christ which John mandates for Christians. [5] 

But this is much more than an act of will, this “commitment.” In John’s Gospel and letters, and for Christians ever since the first days of the Church, it is a question ofBeing, of transformation, of entering into a new life, having already died to this life. Paul uses the same language describing baptism in his letter to the Romans. It is a mystical existence in Jesus even while struggling through this world. Once a Christian begins to “Be,” to “abide,”, to exist in this New Life, they cannot deny it. It is reality, a Divine Reality which proceeds from the Father; it is new life in Christ through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. As Peter puts it in his catholic epistle, we are become “partakers of the divine nature” (2 Peter 1:4).

So, the “Same God Question” asks, can the God who freely gives this New Life through Jesus also be the Allah who commands the opposite through Muhammad? 

Those who take the “Same God” position are, I believe, abstracting the question, and divorcing it from the radically different Sources behind the Islamic and Christian revelations. The Same God Question cannot properly be reduced to an abstract, theoretical, conceptual analysis, but rather deserves to be considered as an ontological, super-essential discernment of two diametrically opposed Sources.

In a similar way to John’s exclusivist writings, the Koranic repudiations of Christian dogma are not abstract, theological points. They too are foundational, activating principles in Islamic faith, prayer and practice. Let us take one example, which the faithful Muslim prays at least seventeen times a day, thousands of times a year:

…Guide us in the straight path, the path of those whom Thou hast blessed, not of those against whom Thou art wrathful, nor of those who are astray. (Sura 1:7)

Offered as a prayer to “the Master of the Day of Doom,” this first sura of the Koran, called al-Fatihah, ‘The Opening’, refers specifically in this its final verse to the Christians and the Jews. In traditional Islamic teaching, Islam alone is “the straight path,” whereas:

“The two paths He described here are both misguided,” and that those “two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them. The path of the believers is knowledge of the truth and abiding by it. In comparison, the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why ‘anger’ descended upon the Jews, while being described as ‘led astray’ is more appropriate of the Christians.”  (Classic Koranic commentator Ibn Kathir,Commentary on Koran 1:7, Vol 1, p 87.)

This is the mainstream Islamic view, held to by most Muslim jurists, though not all Muslims realize whom they are condemning when they pray ‘The Opening’. But taken in context with the other Koranic verses cited above, it is clear that in the Islamic view, Jews and Christians alike are under Allah’s judgment and wrath.

This wouldn’t be of too much immediate existential concern to us if the differences between Islam and Christianity merely constituted theological disagreement, an abstract spiritual debate over origins and eschatology, or even over eternal life and eternal damnation. Apologists make their cases, the faithful persevere, converts are won, apostates are lost, life goes on.

However, because the Koran contains not merely “foundational, activating principles,” as I term them above, but explicit commandments, exhortations and obligations to commit certain actions against non-believers, by which the faithful Muslim proves his loyalty and obedience to Allah, therefore the Same God Question is indeed an immediate, existential concern to us.

This is what we will look at in our next installment:

Part 3: ‘By their fruits you shall know them…‘ — Practical implications of the Same God Question.

NOTES:

[1] — Granted, there is a verse in the Koran where Allah speaks of Isa as being a word and spirit from him: “The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was Allah’s wordwhich he conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from him” (Sura 4:171). Gregory Palamas and John of Damascus both keyed on this in their debates with their Muslim adversaries. However, it is clear from Sura 3:79 and 5:78 that Allah believes Isa [Jesus] to be a created being. And after all, he should know, if he is the creator god!

[2] — It is interesting that Allah goes to such lengths to condemn Christian teaching, even denying the historical fact of Jesus’ crucifixion, which was written about not merely by the authors of the gospels and the New Testament letters, but also by 1st century Jewish and Roman historians like Josephus, Thallus and Tacitus, who drew on non-Christian contemporaneous sources to pen their accounts. Thallus was writing circa 50 A.D., before the commonly accepted date for the first gospels.

We know of Thallus through references to his writing in other ancient authors. From an article by William Lane Craig:

In his Chronicle from about the year 800 the Byzantine chronicler Georgius Syncellus cites a passage from a book, no longer extant, entitled A History of the World, which was written around 220 by the church father Julius Africanus, himself an able historian, who in turn reports that the Roman historian Thallus, who wrote on the history of the Ancient Near East, tries in the third book of his History, a work also no longer extant, to explain away the darkness at the time of Christ’s death as due to a solar eclipse…

…Now if Thallus wrote much later than the Gospels, none of this would be very exciting… On the other hand, if Thallus wrote his History prior to the Gospels, then his testimony becomes very interesting, indeed.

The dating of his work is uncertain, but most scholars date Thallus’ History to the mid-first century, that is, sometime around AD 50, just 20 years after Jesus’ crucifixion in AD 30. By contrast most scholars date Mark’s Gospel to around AD 66-70.

If this right, then either Thallus provides independent, extra-biblical attestation of the darkness at noon, thereby increasing the probability of its historicity, or else Thallus is responding to the passion story which was being told by Christians at his time, thereby attesting to the earliness of that tradition. In either case, Thallus is doubtless reacting to a Christian interpretation of the event, since he is trying to provide an alternative explanation of the event.

One could argue that, given his familiarity with Near Eastern affairs, Thallus would have just denied that the event occurred had he no knowledge of its happening. He thereby confirms the historicity of the darkness at noon. Perhaps, however, simply explaining it away was the easier reply (Thallus elsewhere explains portents naturalistically). In that case, what Thallus delivers is not independent confirmation of the Gospel accounts, butevidence of the primitiveness of the pre-Markan passion tradition, a conclusion of no small significance, since the earlier the tradition, the more historically credible it is.

Of course, if we on other grounds—such as the several lines of evidence suggesting that Acts was written prior to AD 60, and Luke’s Gospel prior to Acts, and Mark’s Gospel prior to Luke—reject the conventional dating of the Gospels, as I’m inclined to do, then we already have the Gospels themselves contemporaneous with Thallus. But on the conventional dating, it is rather stunning that the earlier reference to Jesus’ crucifixion comes not from one of the Christian Evangelists, but from a pagan Roman historian.

[3] — There is a surprising passage in the Koran where Allah directs Muhammad to consult the Jewish and Christian believers if he is in doubt. From an in-deptharticle by John Gilchrist at AnsweringIslam.org:

If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the book before thee. (Sura 10.94)

Gilchrist writes concerning this verse, and the Islamic doctrine of Tahrif, that the Jews and Christians had distorted the Scriptures:

Not only does this text yet again confirm that the Jews and the Christians of Muhammad’s time were indeed reading the true Scripture but it even commands Muhammad to consult them if he was in any doubt about what was coming to him in the Qur’an. If the original Torah and Gospel had been corrupted or replaced, would the Qur’an direct Muhammad to consult the readers of these Scriptures? […]

The result of these positive testimonies to the earlier scriptures in the Qur’an was that the early Muslims did not query the authenticity of the text of the Bible. The differences between them and the Jews and the Christians were ascribed to a perversion of the meaning of the scriptures by the latter but not of the text itself. This became known as tahri fi-manawi, a “corruption of the meaning” of the words. It was only much later that the doctrine of tahrifi-lafzi, “corruption of the text”, developed. In the early days, however, it was presumed that the Jews and Christians were only guilty of misrepresenting the meaning of their scriptures.

Since astute readers would no doubt be aware of these issues, I did want to note them. However, these considerations are beyond the scope of my focus in this series of articles, as it is quite clear from the Koran what Allah’s view is of foundational Christian dogmas.

[4]“He Who IS”  — The Orthodox Church uses this specific phrase in its divine services when offering glory to Jesus Christ. Depending on the translation into English, it varies between “He Who Is, Christ our God…” or “Christ our God,The Existing One…” with the concluding glorification, “is blessed, always, now and ever, and unto the ages of ages, Amen.”  Furthermore, in the nimbus (halo) around Christ’s head in Orthodox iconography, the form of a cross is inscribed with the Greek letters denoting this same phrase, “He Who Is.”  Thus this specific wording bonds our New Testament worship to He who revealed Himself first in the Old Covenant.

[5] — We see this commitment today, when Christians choose to die rather than deny Jesus Christ and convert to Islam, the most stirring example of this kind of faith being the 21 Coptic Martyrs beheaded by the Islamic State a year ago. The coda to their martyrdom was the forgiveness their grieving families offered for the Muslims who killed them. The mothers of the martyrs were praying for the conversion of the ISIS jihadis to Christ, that they would have, like Paul the Apostle, a “Damascus Road” experience.

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Ralph Sidway is an Orthodox Christian researcher and writer, and author of Facing Islam: What the Ancient Church has to say about the Religion of Muhammad. He operates the Facing Islam blog.

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Why is Jesus the Son of God infinitely greater than the gods to whom the word of God came?

Psalm 82

God Presides in the Great Assembly

1 {A Psalm of Asaph.} God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

John 10 v 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. 39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

The Way, the Truth, and the Life

John 14 v 5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Jesus is God, infinitely greater than the gods of Psalm 82 because the word of God came to them, whereas the words of Jesus are the very works or actions of the active communicating mind of the Father himself. This is so because the spirit of Jesus the Son of God is coexistent and coextensive in the same spirit of the Father and indivisible with his spirit as Jesus declares:

“believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.”

“Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?”

There is only one possible deduction that we can conclude from this fact and this must be that Jesus is Jehovah God.

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Did Jesus Command Christians to Kill in Luke 19:27? A video from Answering Muslims

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Life for Land or Visiting the sins of the fathers upon the children Islamic style. From Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch.org, bible quotation added by me

King James Bible
Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

Israeli woman dies after being stabbed by Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar”

Muslim clerics and Palestinian Authority TV have called for these stabbing attacks.

Shlomit Krigman

“Young Israeli Woman Succumbs to Stabbing Attack,” CBN News, January 26, 2016:

JERUSALEM, Israel – A 23-year-old Israeli woman died on Tuesday after being stabbed in a terror attack the day before.

In what is quickly becoming a new trend in terror attacks, two Palestinians jumped the security fence of the Jewish community of Beit Horon outside Jerusalem.

They stabbed Shlomit Krigman and another woman, 58, and threw fire bombs at the grocery store there. When the bombs failed to explode, they tried to enter the grocery where women and children were shopping.

In a scene captured by a security camera in the store, cashier Mordechai Shalem can be seen fighting the terrorists with a grocery cart, successfully preventing them from entering the store.

Shalem described the ordeal in an interview on Israeli television as “frightening.”

“Two people were standing next to me with knives,” he recalled. “I could see the hate and the anger. They screamed ‘Allahu akbar’ (Allah is greater) and I said, ‘dogs, get out of here.” He said they ran away after a few seconds and noted it was “a clear miracle.”…

COMMENTS

  1. ICH says

    January 27, 2016 at 11:26 am

    ahhh what a shame
    such a nice friendly girl :(

    senseless killing

    if that was my sister or wife I would go dexter on all of them

  2. Jack says

    January 27, 2016 at 11:34 am

    I understand that the NYTimes no longer considers it newsworthy when an Israeli is murdered by Palestinian Terrorists especially if in a “settlement”. However it is newsworthy for them AND parity it the terrorists are neutralized in their act of terror. NYTimes employees and contractors there is a Special Place for You in the Afterlife!

  3. G179 says

    January 27, 2016 at 12:37 pm

    This murder has the full support of the UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon, who said only a few hours after the attack: “It is human nature to react to occupation..”.
    Ban Ki-moon, this blood is on your hands.

    • Myrtle Linder says

      January 27, 2016 at 1:48 pm

      Acts of hatred and never considered serious, within their groups filled with people consumed with hate for any one not like them.

      • balam says

        January 27, 2016 at 3:07 pm

        Like the SNAKES.the bellies of Muslims are also filled with ISLAMIC VENOM. Yet,it is safer to trust a poisonous Snake than a ‘good Muslim’. It saddened me immensely for the loss of a precious life.

    • Dude says

      January 27, 2016 at 2:31 pm

      Coming soon to a theater near you:

      “It is human nature to react to perceived offense.”
      “It is human nature to react to normally dressed women.”
      “It is human nature to react to depictions of mohammed.”
      “It is human nature to react to a mother who ruins your pickpocketing attempt.”
      “It is human nature to react to the presence of young boys and barnyard animals.”
      “It is human nature to react to infidels’ heads still attached to their bodies.”

      The list is endless really.

    • KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM says

      January 27, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      Just wait ’till Barry Soetoro (aka Barack Obama) becomes UN Sec-Gen. His first speech will be broadcast from his new gated mansion in Oahu and commence with the obligatory ‘aloha snackbar’ from the place of my birth. The future does not belong to those who resist yeeeeeeehawd!

    • RG says

      January 27, 2016 at 2:49 pm

      @Angemon. Yeah, no kidding! My sentiments exactly! Makes me wanna get violently ill every time I see some dim wit, pc dhimmi translate that disgusting islamic rubbish as, “God is great”!

  4. Shmooviyet says

    January 27, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    The ‘hate and the anger’ the cashier saw visibly radiates off these fanged, cowardly creatures.
    White-hot hatred from black dead eyes.

    • Mo says

      January 27, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      @ Don Spilman

      “Satan, and his best followers the Muslims,hate the Jews because they still represent the one true God.”

      Absolutely right! When you see the endless, rabid, insane, foaming at the mouth, unprovoked hatred that some people have toward Jews and Israel, that is the only explanation left.

  5. RG says

    January 27, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    @Mo. It all started in the Garden when Abel showed-up his brother, Cain, for offering up an inferior (and therefore illegitimate) sacrifice. Same vile hatred–just goes by a different system of identification!

  6. Bill says

    January 27, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    I have read numerous stories about French Jews leaving France in large numbers for Israel. It makes me wonder how bad it must be in France that Israel would be seen as an improvement from a personal safety standpoint. Right now, Israel does not appear to be particularly safe .

  7. Walter Sieruk says

    January 27, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    The heartless murder of that young women by the jihad -minded Muslim fiend was totally unconscionable. Nevertheless such are the heinous cruel vicious and bloodthirstily ways of Islam’s jihad. The death cult of a religion which is Islam with it’s own “scripture” that is called the Koran. The Koran had proven to actually be a death manual. The results Muslims following this death manual in seen in this above article. Such a the despicable murderous teachings of the Koran , As seen in, for example, 4:89, 5:33.9:5,111,123. 47:4. Still, there might be some who might wonder that then ask “Just how can those kind of Muslims, being then so very religious, also be so ruthless.,unfeeling malicious and murderous ?” The answer to that question is found in the Bible. For the Bible teaches that there are some people who are extremely brutal heartless,cruel ,callous and dangerous because they have had “their conscience seared with a hot iron.” First Timothy 4:2. [K.J.V.] The “hot iron ” in this case is Islam.

    • Myrtle Linder says

      January 27, 2016 at 4:24 pm

      It so depressing, beautiful, young people dying because of the insane hatred of monsters flitting around the nation with no common sense or self control, most four legged animals re better controlled..

  8. somehistory says

    January 27, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    The original sons of demons were killers.
    The modern sons of demons are still killing, just like the original sons of demons did.
    Like those original sons, these too will be eliminated as they oppose everything good from the True God.

    The girl in the photo is so pleasant, may her family find comfort.
    so much different from the photos of the kind that show those who kill for the sport, the hatred, the wild beast.

    To be sure, the man in the store using the grocery cart, saved lives.

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Jesus the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, the first and the last. From the Will J. Kinney KJV website.

Revelation 1:8-11 “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending,  the first and the last”

Revelation 1:11 “I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last”

There are several words omitted from both Revelation 1:8 and 1:11 which provide strong testimony to the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ is Himself Jehovah, the Lord God Almighty.

In Revelation 1:8 in the King James Bible we read: “I am Alpha and Omega, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and is to come, the Almighty.”

And in Revelation 1:11 we read of a voice speaking to the apostle John: “Saying, I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST; AND, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches WHICH ARE IN ASIA; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.”

When John turned to see the voice that spoke unto him, he saw one like unto the Son of man. Then this same Son of man says to him: “Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and death.” Revelation 1:17-18.

This is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ, the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last; He that was dead and is now alive for evermore.

If the Lord Jesus Christ is the one speaking here as the King James Bible and the Traditional Greek Texts read, then He is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end, and He is Jehovah God Almighty.

Compare these titles to those Jehovah God gives us of Himself in the book of Isaiah.  In Isaiah 44:6 we read: “Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts: I AM THE FIRST, AND I AM THE LAST; AND BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD.”

And in Isaiah 48:12 again we read: “Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I AM THE FIRST, I ALSO AM THE LAST.”

In Revelation 1:8 the words “THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING” are omitted by the new Vatican Versions including the RSV, NIV, NASB, ESV, ISV, Jehovah Witness New World Translation and Daniel Wallace’s NET versions.

 

The Catholic Connection

 

They used to be in the Catholic Douay-Rheims of 1582 – “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end” and the Douay of 1950, but the more modern Catholic versions like the St. Joseph New American bible of 1970 and the New Jerusalem bible of 1985 omit these words by following the ever changing Critical (condition) texts of the United Bible Society/Nestle-Aland/Catholic/Evangelical Combine.

But, not to worry, the latest Catholic Public Domain Version of 2009 has now put these words back into the text and it reads: “I am the Alpha and the Omega, THE BEGINNING AND THE END.”, and so too has The Revised Douay-Rheims Bible 2012.

 

The words “the beginning and the ending” are found in several manuscripts like 205, 209, 1854, 2344, 2351, 2432, 2814 and are in the Old Latin copies ar, c, dem, div, gig, had, t, z the Latin Vulgate, Coptic Boharic and the Syriac Peshitta ancient versions. There were so quoted by Origen, Apringius, Andrew, Clement and Beatus.

Clement of Alexandria The Instructor Book I: Rightly, therefore, the Lord again promises milk to the righteous, that the Word may be clearly shown to be both, “the Alpha and Omega, beginning and end”

 

Lamsa’s 1933 translation of the Syriac Peshitta reads in Revelation 1:8 – “I am Aleph and Tau, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

There is no book of the Revelation in the Vaticanus manuscript, but the words were included in Sinaiticus original. Then they were removed, and then later on put back into the Sinaiticus mss.  They are found in the Traditional Greek Text and in the modern Greek New Testament used by the Greek Orthodox churches all over the world today.

The Modern Greek Bible reads:Εγω ειμαι το Α και το Ω, αρχη και τελος, λεγει ο Κυριος, ο ων και ο ην και ο ερχομενος, ο παντοκρατωρ.”

 

And in the Modern Hebrew Bible – אני האלף ואני התו ראש וסוף נאם יהוה אלהים ההוה והיה ויבוא אלהי צבאות

 

The words: “THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING” are included in Wycliffe 1395, Tyndale 1525, Coverdale 1535, the Great Bible 1540, Matthew’s Bible 1549 -”I am Alpha and Omega, the begynnynge and the endynge, sayeth the Lorde almyghty”, the Bishops’ Bible 1568, the Douay-Rheims 1582, the Geneva Bible 1587, the King James Bible 1611, the Beza New Testament 1599, the Bill Bible 1671, Mace’s New Testament 1729, Worsley Version 1770, Thomas Haweis N.T. 1795, the Clarke N.T. 1795, the Thomson Bible 1808, The Revised Translation 1815, Webster’s translation 1833, the Morgan N.T. 1848, the Hewett N.T. 1850, The Commonly Received Version 1851, Julia Smith Translation 1855, The Revised N.T. 1862, The Smith Bible 1876, The Revised English Bible 1877, the Dillard N.T. 1885, Youngs 1898, The Living Bible 1971, the NKJV 1982, Green’s Literal 2005, the Third Millennium Bible of 1998 and the English Jubilee Bible 2010.

 

Other English Bibles that read: “I am Alpha and Omega, THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.” are Interlinear Greek New Testament 1997 (Larry Pierce), the Lawrie Translation 1998, The Koster Scriptures 1998, the Worldwide English N.T. 1998, God’s First Truth 1999, The Last Days Bible 1999, The Tomson N.T. 2002, The Apostolic Polyglot Bible 2003, The Evidence Bible 2003, The Resurrection Life New Testament 2005 (Vince Garcia), Bond Slave Version 2009, Hebraic Transliteration Scripture 2010, Holy Scriptures VW Edition 2010, Biblos Interlinear Bible 2011, The Work of God’s Children Illustrated Bible 2011, The Orthodox Jewish Bible 2011, The Natural Israelite Bible 2012, The Voice 2012 (a Critical text version!), Interlinear Hebrew-Greek Scriptures 2012 (Mebust), Hebraic Roots Bible 2012, The Biblos Bible 2013 and the Modern English Version 2014.

 

Foreign Language Bibles

Among foreign language Bible they are found in the Afrikaans bible 1953 – “Ek is die Alfa en die Oméga, die begin en die einde, the Albanian Bible, the Dutch Staten Vertaling – “Ik ben de Alfa en de Omega, HET BEGIN EN HET EINDE”, the French  le Bible de Geneve 1669, the French Martin 1744 and the French Ostervald 1998 – “Je suis l’Alpha et l’Oméga, LE COMMENCEMENT ET LA FIN,” Spanish Reina Valera of 1569, 1909, 1960 and 1995 – “Yo soy el Alpha y la Omega, PRINCIPIO Y FIN, dice el Señor, que es y que era y que ha de venir, el Todopoderoso.” Luther’s German Bible 1545 – “Ich bin das A und das O, der Anfang und das Ende, spricht der HERR”, the Italian Diodati of 1649 and the New Diodati of 1991 – “Io son l’Alfa, e l’Omega; IL PRINCIPE,E LA FINE”, the  Portuguese Almeida Corrigida y Fiel version – “Eu sou o Alfa e o Ômega, O PRINCIPIO E O FIM, diz o Senhor”, the Polish Updated Gdansk Bible 2013 – “Ja jestem Alfa i Omega, początek i koniec” and the Tagalog Ang Salita ng Diyos 1998 –Ako ang Alpha at Omega, ang simula at ang wakas.”

 
 

 

the Modern Greek New Testament -“Εγω ειμαι το Α και το Ω, αρχη και τελος, λεγει ο Κυριος, ο ων και ο ην και ο ερχομενος, ο παντοκρατωρ.”

 

As a side note, the Vatican Versions like the NIV, NASB, ESV, RSV, NET etc. contain an extra word in Revelation 1:8.  The NIV says: “I am the Alpha and the Omega (omits “the beginning and the ending”) says the Lord GOD (adds the word “God”), who is, and who was, and who is to come.”

This extra word “God” is NOT found in Tnydale, Coverdale, the Bishops’ Bible, the Geneva Bible, Youngs, Green’s 2000 nor the NKJV.  Neither is the extra word “God” found in the Spanish Sagradas Escrituras of 1569, the Spanish Reina Valeras of 1909, 1960, 1995, or 2011, nor the German Schlachter 2000, nor the Italian New Diodati of 1991, nor the Dutch Staten Vertaling Bible, nor in the French Martin 1744 or Ostervald of 1996, or the Portuguese Biblia Almeida Corrigida E Fiel or the Portuguese A Biblia Sagrada em Portugués.  It it also not in the Greek texts of Stephanus, Beza, Elziever nor in the  Modern Greek – “Εγω ειμαι το Α και το Ω, αρχη και τελος, λεγει ο Κυριος, ο ων και ο ην και ο ερχομενος, ο παντοκρατωρ.” 

However the extra word “says the Lord GOD” is found in the Catholic versions like the Douay-Rheims, St. Joseph NAB, New Jerusalem bible 1985, the Jehovah Witness New World Translation and the other Vatican Versions like the ESV, NIV, NASB, NET and Holman Standard.

 

Revelation 1:11 – “I AM  ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE  FIRST AND THE LAST”

 

 

When we get to Revelation 1:11 the words “I AM  ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE  FIRST AND THE LAST” are omitted by the modern Catholic versions and the RSV, NIV, NASB, ESV, ISV and NET versions all of which are based on the ever changing UBS – Nestle-Aland Vatican Versions Critical Text. They are also omitted by the Catholic Douay Rheims, the St. Joseph New American bible of 1970 and the New Jerusalem bible of 1985.

The words are found in the Traditional Greek text and in the Greek texts of Stephanus, Beza and Elziever. They are also found in many individual Greek manuscripts that have survived to this day, including about 57 of Hoskiers cursives, according to Jack Moorman and his book ‘When the KJV Departs from the “Majority” Text’.

This IS the text of the Reformation Bibles in all languages.

 

The words: “I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST” are found in Tyndale 1525, Coverdale 1535, the Great Bible 1540, Matthew’s Bible 1549 – “saiynge. I am Alpha and Omega, the fyrst and the laste.”, the Bishops’ Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1587, the Beza N.T. 1599, the King James Bible 1611, the Bill Bible 1671, Mace’s New Testament 1729, the Worsley Version 1770, the Clarke N.T. 1795, the Thomson Bible 1808, The Revised Translation 1815, the Morgan N.T. 1848, The Commonly Received Version 1851, the Julia Smith Translation 1855, The Revised N.T. 1862, The Smith Bible 1876, The Revised English Bible 1877, the Dillard N.T. 1885, Young’s literal 1898, The Living Bible 1971, the NKJV 1982, the Amplified Bible 1987, Green’s Literal 2005, the Interlinear Greek N.T. 1997 (Larry Pierce), the Lawrie Translation 1998, The Koster Scriptures 1998, the Third Millennium Bible 1998, The Last Days Bible 1999, the Tomson N.T. 2002, the Resurrection Life New Testament 2005, Hebraic Transliteration Scripture 2010, English Jubilee Bible 2010, Holy Scriptures VW Edition 2010, Biblos Interlinear Bible 2011, The Orthodox Jewish Bible 2011 – “Saying, Ani Hu the Aleph and the Tav, HaRishon (The first) and HaAcharon (The last)”, The Voice 2012 (a Critical text version!) – “ A voice:  I am the Alpha and the Omega, the very beginning and the very end. Make a book of what you see, write it down…”, The Biblos Bible 2013 and the Modern English Version 2014. 

 

 

Among foreign language Bibles these words are included in the Africanns Bible, the Albanian bible, the Dutch Staten Vertaling – “Ik ben de Alfa en de Omega, de Eerste en de Laatste;”, the French le Bible de Geneve 1669, the French Martin 1744 and Ostervald 1998 – “Qui disait :Je suis l’Alpha et l’Oméga, le premier et le dernier”, the Spanish Las Sagradas Escrituras of 1569, Cipriano de Valera 1602, the Reina Valera’s 1909, 1960, 1995, Spanish Jubilee 2010 – “Que decía: Yo soy el Alpha y Omega, el primero y el último.” Luther’s German Bible 1545 and the 2000 Schlachter Bible – “Ich bin das A und das O, der Erste und der Letzte”, the Italian Diodati of 1649 and the New Diodati of 1991 – “Io son l’Alfa, e l’Omega; il primo, e l’ultimo” , the Romanian Cornilescu, the Russian, the Portuguese Almeida Corrigida, Revisada y Fiel Version – “Que dizia: Eu sou o Alfa e o Ômega, o primeiro e o derradeiro”, the Polish Updated Gdansk Bible 2013 – “Który mówił: Ja jestem Alfa i Omega, pierwszy i ostatni.”, the Hungarian Károli Bible – “Én vagyok az Alfa és az Omega, az Elsõ és Utolsó”, and in the Tagalog Ang Salita ng Diyos 1998 -“Sinabi nito: Ako ang Alpha at ang Omega, ang simula at ang wakas.”

and the Modern Greek New Testament – “ητις ελεγεν· Εγω ειμαι το Α και το Ω, ο πρωτος και ο εσχατος·και, Ο, τι βλεπεις, γραψον”,

 

and the Modern Hebrew New Testament – ויאמר אני האלף ואני התו הראשון והאחרון ואת אשר אתה ראה כתב אל ספר ושלחהו אל הקהלות אשר באסיא לאפסוס ולזמירנא ולפרגמוס ולתיאטירא ולסרדיס ולפילדפיא וללודקיא׃

both of which can be seen at this site here –

http://unbound.biola.edu/

 

The omission of these words from Revelation 1:8 and 11 by the modern UBS Catholic Vatican Versions removes an important reference to the Lord Jesus Christ being equal to Jehovah God of the Old Testament who Himself is also “the first and the last, and beside Me there is no God”.

John Gill – “I am Alpha and Omega,…. These are the words of Christ himself, appearing at once, and confirming what John had said of him, concerning his person, offices, and future coming: Alpha is the first letter, and Omega the last in the Greek alphabet, and signifies that Christ is the first and the last, as it is interpreted in Revelation 1:11, and is a character often given to the divine Being in prophetic writings; see Isaiah 41:4,   and is no small proof of THE PROPER DEITY OF CHRIST.”

Matthew PooleAlpha and Omega are the first and last letters in the Greek alphabet, as Aleph and Tau are in the Hebrew alphabet: the meaning of these is expounded, the beginning and the ending; he who was before all, and shall continue to exist when all creatures shall cease to be; the first and the last, as the same terms are expounded, Revelation 22:13; so Isaiah 41:4; 43:13  Which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty:He addeth the Almighty, to show that he was able to make his words good. Thus in this verse, omnipotency, eternity, and immutability, ARE ALL APPLIED TO GOD, AND PARTICULARLY PREDICATED OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST.”

Matthew Henry – “This account of Christ is ratified and confirmed by himself, v. 8. Here our Lord Jesus justly challenges the same honour and power that is ascribed to the Father, v. 4. He is the beginning and the end; all things are from him and for him; he is the Almighty; he is the same eternal and unchangeable one. And surely whoever presumes to blot out one character of this name of Christ deserves to have his name blotted out of the book of life. Those that honour him he will honour; but those who despise him shall be lightly esteemed.”

The King James Bible is the complete, inspired and 100% true words of the living God. Accept no substitutes.

Will Kinney

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